Quote from: squirewaldo on December 25, 2023, 08:54:39 AM
I think the answer to the original question "Are Trans PoC Gamers the Future of D&D?" is a solid MAYBE... However, that specific question leads to the next more general one: "Are Trans PoC Gamers the Future of RPGs?" I think the answer to that question is a solid NO! For two reasons:

1. Everything these people touch they destroy -- so if they end up taking over D&D and other 'mainstream' RPGs they will end up killing them. Then they will abandon RPGs and find something else to destroy.
2. Those who actually like RPGs will continue to do so, and will continue to create, innovate, and restore RPGs to suit their own desires, and thus RPGs will survive despite the depredations of the malicious woke and the fools who follow them.

3) They have miniscule numbers, and most are genetic dead-ends. I keep hearing how majorities are being 'replaced' and 'going the way of the dinosaur' from people that aren't breeding.

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 25, 2023, 10:24:42 AM

Quote from: squirewaldo on December 25, 2023, 08:54:39 AM
I think the answer to the original question "Are Trans PoC Gamers the Future of D&D?" is a solid MAYBE... However, that specific question leads to the next more general one: "Are Trans PoC Gamers the Future of RPGs?" I think the answer to that question is a solid NO! For two reasons:

1. Everything these people touch they destroy -- so if they end up taking over D&D and other 'mainstream' RPGs they will end up killing them. Then they will abandon RPGs and find something else to destroy.
2. Those who actually like RPGs will continue to do so, and will continue to create, innovate, and restore RPGs to suit their own desires, and thus RPGs will survive despite the depredations of the malicious woke and the fools who follow them.

3) They have miniscule numbers, and most are genetic dead-ends. I keep hearing how majorities are being 'replaced' and 'going the way of the dinosaur' from people that aren't breeding.

I didn't say they would 'replace' anyone, although they might very well run everyone else off from D&D. I said that they will destroy it. I won't play D&D unless absolutely forced to, and then I won't buy anything. I don't think they will take over the RPG industry other than to destroy it. And I don't think that will work. They might destroy some companies, but not RPGs. IMHO

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 25, 2023, 10:24:42 AM
3) They have miniscule numbers, and most are genetic dead-ends. I keep hearing how majorities are being 'replaced' and 'going the way of the dinosaur' from people that aren't breeding.

Solid point!

The Alphabet people cannot reproduce in any normal way so the only way they can reproduce is to corrupt children.

 

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 25, 2023, 10:24:42 AMThey have miniscule numbers, and most are genetic dead-ends. I keep hearing how majorities are being 'replaced' and 'going the way of the dinosaur' from people that aren't breeding.

Quote from: squirewaldo on December 25, 2023, 10:43:23 AMI didn't say they would 'replace' anyone, although they might very well run everyone else off from D&D. I said that they will destroy it.

And I didn't specify you as saying it. People like Pawsplay say it.

"You racist Republicans are dinosaurs, you're dying out! Ignore Trump winning 4 years ago, and looking set to win again, you're a dying breed with no relevance!"

He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody

The obvious answer is no.  There aren't enough trans Pocs who play D&D to be the future of D&D or much of anything.  We are talking about a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of a minority.  D&D would have to shrink down to a tiny, niche activity like all of the PbtA games about queers queerly being queer queerly that very few people have heard of, even fewer own and even fewer actually play.   

You know what? I'm done here.

The people here spewing trans hate and misinformation have nothing to do with the reality of the condition itself. It just spreads bigotry. Which I deal with enough every day. I'm done. I've had enough.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on December 26, 2023, 06:27:28 AM
You know what? I'm done here.

The people here spewing trans hate and misinformation have nothing to do with the reality of the condition itself. It just spreads bigotry. Which I deal with enough every day. I'm done. I've had enough.

It occurs to me that you might have spoken up when pawsplay was riling everyone up, slinging slurs and picking fights. I think most people are live and let live until they get repeatedly provoked. Folks like them hurt your community more than anything else, and your community calling them out would help immensely with your acceptance.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on December 26, 2023, 06:27:28 AM
You know what? I'm done here.

The people here spewing trans hate and misinformation have nothing to do with the reality of the condition itself. It just spreads bigotry. Which I deal with enough every day. I'm done. I've had enough.

I'd say that if anything spread bigotry it is the militant, radical, totalitarian (to the point of wanting to criminalize anyone disagreeing with their ideology) and aggressive (to the point of violence) nature of "trans activism", which has completely hijacked the left, and clearly presents a kind of lifestyle that has nothing to do with sexual dysmorphia itself, but rather the aggressive attempt to garner power and control over society/culture (including families and education).

Quote from: RPGPundit on December 26, 2023, 06:38:53 AM
I'd say that if anything spread bigotry it is the militant, radical, totalitarian (to the point of wanting to criminalize anyone disagreeing with their ideology) and aggressive (to the point of violence) nature of "trans activism", which has completely hijacked the left, and clearly presents a kind of lifestyle that has nothing to do with sexual dysmorphia itself, but rather the aggressive attempt to garner power and control over society/culture (including families and education).

The ideologues have nothing to do with the people who actually have the condition. You would be surprised how different the opinions of real trans people are with those involved in the culture war are. How different and diverse those opinions are.

My personal belief it that being trans is a transitory condition. A purgatory waiting to be corrected. And I sure as heck do not want the whole world to be about that ugly phase.

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 26, 2023, 06:35:13 AM
It occurs to me that you might have spoken up when pawsplay was riling everyone up, slinging slurs and picking fights. I think most people are live and let live until they get repeatedly provoked. Folks like them hurt your community more than anything else, and your community calling them out would help immensely with your acceptance.

It was more than him. I've been reading the whole thread since its inception.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on December 26, 2023, 06:46:05 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on December 26, 2023, 06:38:53 AM
I'd say that if anything spread bigotry it is the militant, radical, totalitarian (to the point of wanting to criminalize anyone disagreeing with their ideology) and aggressive (to the point of violence) nature of "trans activism", which has completely hijacked the left, and clearly presents a kind of lifestyle that has nothing to do with sexual dysmorphia itself, but rather the aggressive attempt to garner power and control over society/culture (including families and education).

The ideologues have nothing to do with the people who actually have the condition. You would be surprised how different the opinions of real trans people are with those involved in the culture war are. How different and diverse those opinions are.

My personal belief it that being trans is a transitory condition. A purgatory waiting to be corrected. And I sure as heck do not want the whole world to be about that ugly phase.

Neither does anyone else. 

I'm sorry that people suffer with what is essentially the inability to accept themselves as they were born and get about the business of living.  My heart goes out to them and I wish each and every one of them finds some inner peace.

My problem and the problem with many of us pushing back is:
1.  The trans themselves are being lied to about chemicals and surgeries being the cure where all the collected data shows that more than half have deep regret about the procedures and nearly all revert to a pre-treatment state of mental and emotional health after a few years.
2.  It's complete lies that the mental health problems that trans suffer is applied externally by society.  Most trans come from fucked up homes but that isn't the fault of society at large.
3.  Trans activists are demanding sweeping and deeply destructive changes to society for the benefit of trans, most of which don't actually offer any real benefit to trans people.
4.  There is an aggressive movement to go after the children of regular people and convince them they are trans and to guide them down the path of transitioning long before they have developed their own personality.
5.  Trans activist are making sexuality and gender issues a center point of every social interaction they can.
6.  Trans activists actively trying to destroy the lives of anyone that offers any form of resistance to their "movement," even if it's to ask if we're doing what is most beneficial to everyone.

Those so-called activists and ideologues don't represent anyone actually with the condition. It's all political hogwash.

The moment I started taking estrogen, was the moment my migraines stopped. Nothing else worked. Nothing else gave such immediate relief. So yes, this chemical helped me. Like no other medicine ever did.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on December 26, 2023, 08:07:47 AM
The moment I started taking estrogen, was the moment my migraines stopped. Nothing else worked. Nothing else gave such immediate relief. So yes, this chemical helped me. Like no other medicine ever did.

Estrogen should not have had that effect.  This is either the symptoms of a deeper issue with your endocrine system or a psychosomatic response.  I strongly suggest you take a deeper look into it.  Get your thyroid and your liver function checked.  Also, if you consume any recreational pharmacology products, stop immediately. 

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on December 26, 2023, 07:30:13 AM
Those so-called activists and ideologues don't represent anyone actually with the condition. It's all political hogwash.

They rarely do for any group.  There's several of us here that have ADD/ADHD and autism and we aren't represented by the activist groups the supposedly speak for us.  A close friend of mine that's Jewish bitches to me from time to time about the ADL as well.

Welcome to the world of being a political football.