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Are Trans PoC Gamers the Future of D&D?

Started by RPGPundit, October 23, 2023, 09:55:31 PM

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PulpHerb

Quote from: BadApple on October 23, 2023, 10:36:39 PM
I, for one, would love to buy your Far East setting RPG.  I would openly request that you include material inspired by pre-shogunate Japan, pre-unified china, Korea, Indo-China peninsula, and the Maya island peoples.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by "Pre-Unified China". I can think of a lot of ununified periods so I'm curious as to the specific one you're after (I assume prior to a specific territorial extend, but am curious).

Chris24601

Quote from: pawsplay on November 26, 2023, 12:18:51 AM
I, a trans PoC gamer, am personally the future of the industry. Deal with it.
Well, that explains everything about your other positions. You're mentally ill.

BadApple

Quote from: PulpHerb on November 27, 2023, 10:32:26 PM
Quote from: BadApple on October 23, 2023, 10:36:39 PM
I, for one, would love to buy your Far East setting RPG.  I would openly request that you include material inspired by pre-shogunate Japan, pre-unified china, Korea, Indo-China peninsula, and the Maya island peoples.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by "Pre-Unified China". I can think of a lot of ununified periods so I'm curious as to the specific one you're after (I assume prior to a specific territorial extend, but am curious).

You're right, I had to look it up.  The part that leaps to mind for me is the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period. 
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

honeydipperdavid

#33
The future of D&D players are the children of those who play D&D and are taught.  Once you mutilate your genitalia your chance at progeny is done short of extremely expensive and unreliable IVF and a surrogate. 

As WotC continues down the path of Disney, it is losing market share, players and cultural relevance.  The guys at my open table are 4 out of 5 GenX and one millennial.  At the big hobby shop in the area, I look at the tables, its the same groups and same people, they aren't bringing in new players that I've gamed with in the past.  The future of D&D is going to be a familial tradition not a cultural tradition as WotC burns itself into the ground.   You know like getting together to play a game of Pinochle or Euchre, families pass those games down, they don't have much cultural relevance now to pass them on.

And pro-tip for those ladies who are going to freeze their eggs for a career, the children born of IVF have higher blood pressure, fertility problems and die earlier.  You don't mess with mother nature and remove mechanisms to ensure the fittest cells procreate without dealing with consequences.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3650450/

SHARK

Quote from: Chris24601 on November 28, 2023, 09:30:02 AM
Quote from: pawsplay on November 26, 2023, 12:18:51 AM
I, a trans PoC gamer, am personally the future of the industry. Deal with it.
Well, that explains everything about your other positions. You're mentally ill.

Greetings!

*Laughing* Doesn't it though? It explains Pawsplay's nonsense and mind-fucked ideology.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

tenbones

Quote from: pawsplay on November 26, 2023, 12:18:51 AM
I, a trans PoC gamer, am personally the future of the industry. Deal with it.

LOL well you're likely about to add to your collection of colossal disappointments. I'm going to venture it's your natural habitat.

Wrath of God

QuoteI, a trans PoC gamer, am personally the future of the industry. Deal with it.

My friend you are not even your bloodline's future.
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"


"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

honeydipperdavid

#37
Quote from: Wrath of God on November 28, 2023, 03:48:25 PM
QuoteI, a trans PoC gamer, am personally the future of the industry. Deal with it.

My friend you are not even your bloodline's future.

With the leftard version of trans, a dude dyes his beard purple so he can use the ladies room and get preference in hiring, its likely his junk is quite present and he'll never split his penis down the middle, remove his testicles and then create a hole in his crotch for gay men to get sexual pleasure.  The trans people I worked with in the past would never do any of the shit the leftards are pretending and they wanted to be treated as the opposite gender and they did not do everything they could to stand out.  No actual trans woman is going to talk about her bulge - see Dylan McVeiny for source.  So he could have children, just saying.

tenbones

Yeah but you know... you got game, or you got illegal means that seem to proliferate that side of the ideological fence.

And lets not forget Mother Earth is depending on them not procreating in order to save her. The Green movement needs that abstinence!

Wrath of God

QuoteWith the leftard version of trans, a dude dyes his beard purple so he can use the ladies room and get preference in hiring, its likely his junk is quite present and he'll never split his penis down the middle, remove his testicles and then create a hole in his crotch for gay men to get sexual pleasure.  The trans people I worked with in the past would never do any of the shit the leftards are pretending and they wanted to be treated as the opposite gender and they did not do everything they could to stand out.  No actual trans woman is going to talk about her bulge - see Dylan McVeiny for source.  So he could have children, just saying.

Thank you for all this bodily horror imagery in utterly unnecessary attempt to explain simple jab,
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"


"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

pawsplay

Apparently several of you would be disappointed to know how many offspring I have.

tenbones

Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 12:17:54 AM
Apparently several of you would be disappointed to know how many offspring I have.

Don't care enough to be disappointed. So are they going to transition too?

pawsplay

As I said above, your viewpoint on whether the hobby has been taken over by Woke leftists really depends on your definitions. I mean, the Pundit, as a supporter of minorities, gender diversity, and women gamers, would be "woke" according to many people.

I have come to give you the word, and the word is good. According to definitions and implications often tossed around this site, it's all true. The RPG hobby has been subsumed into wokeness. As never before, people are talking about race, gender, sexuality, colonization and de-colonization, appropriation, feminism, and various intersectionalities, as never before. Even for people who did not respond with visceral disgust at the hadozee controversy, they can tell which the wind is blowing; even if they don't consider themselves woke, the mainstream gamer, the mainstream person, doesn't want to be thought of as a racist or misogynist. The economics are in favor of wokeness; people pander to the new awareness of all time, and court an image of being sensitive and inclusive. They actively scorn the dollars of reactionaries, because people who complain about "wokeness" and such are a dwindling group with little reach, and increasingly, fewer dollars to spend. People used to cackle, "Get woke, go broke," and the opposite has occurred. If you resist the overall progressive trend, your brand will suffer, your sales will suffer, and you personally will be chased to the ends of the Earth until you recant your heresy. The new social order, like any social order, will be enforced by all the usual tools: scorn, exclusion, and active disconnection in society and the economy. Anti-woke people are increasingly unpopular, in many corners unwelcome, and will ultimately become pariahs and eccentrics on the very fringes of the hobby.

This forum is unlike virtually any other gaming space on the Internet I can think of. It represents a realm where people can openly express disdain for minorities, for feminism, for social justice, for inclusion, and this is treated as within the range of normal opinions a person can have and still be respected in society. Not so, elsewhere. You will be sanctioned and even banned from discussion groups and entire spaces on many, if not most, sites. Here, people call being trans a "mental illness." You know who doesn't? People with actual expertise in mental illness. It's a bizarre phenomenon, people latching onto a pseudo-medical, pseudo-intellectual casting of the issue, when the very opinion indicates being decades behind the times, and increasingly retrograde with respect to the ethics and science of the 21st century. Calling transgender identity a mental illness is not simply politically incorrect or rude, it's just wrong and incorrect, in ways that show someone's lack of sophistication. It's like being a flat earther. It's not just socially repugnant and scientifically ignorant, it's embarrassing. It's like being ones of those guys who stands up in the US Sentate and says something stupid that reveals to the world they don't understand anything about pregnancy, the female orgasm, or what people under the age of 60 think about just about anything.

And it's only going to get worse. The Boomers had their day. They had their leftists and progressives. But ultimately, most of the ones in the US voted for Reagan. They were conservative enough that they liked Clinton, who ran on welfare "reform" and brokered a Devil's bargain in the form of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, ... honestly, the best deal we could get at the time. But after them came Gen X. And Gen X listened to Rage Against the Machine and smoked some weed and knew gay people and were fine with it. They wanted healthcare, and they hated cops, and increasingly were cynical about the initiatives the Boomers pushed through because they saw the real reasons. And Gen X grew up playing D&D. And now people are at age where Gen X is a bunch of the people writing, promoting, and publishing RPGs. And what you see, is what you think. By the very loose and open definitions of "wokeness" tossed around, Gen X is woke to its core.

But Gen X is a small generation. A buffer zone. And the ones who came after, the Millennials, have always had the Internet. They've always had gay people on TV. They are so against racism, some of them struggle to sense and understand it, because they think it's something from the Bad Old Days. But the Millennial generation is huge. Even Millennials who vote conservative, overwhelmingly take progressive stances on bread and butter issues of the day. They are going to increasingly replace Gen X as the writers, creators, influencers, and target demographic of RPGs. Increasingly, they will be the target of the next wave of nostalgia gaming. Story games and PbtA and everything is so old now, that people who cut their teeth on it, are going to be coming back to it. Somewhere out there, people are already writing the next generation of "old school" games, inspired by, and a commentary on, D&D 4e, on Pathfinder 1e. Millenials love woke shit. And they are the rulers of social media. If you can't adopt to modern norms, they will hit you with the force of the ocean. You will not survive, financially, socially, demographically. They will bury you.

And the zoomers? Little bitty woke goblins. Some of them are in college now. And they are the wokest little fuckers you've ever met. Sure, the majority are racist, misogynist, homophobic little pukes, but it's the smallest majority in history. And they all know their own wedge, and they protect it. Little woke Asian zoomers making fun of crusty, hilarious Oriental Adventures bullcrap. Woke little gaymers, gay as they want to be. Baby bronies. People who view essentially every Final Fantasy game as vintage, "dad gaming." They watch anime, absolutely the gayest anime, and they don't apologize for it.

The world you knew, is over. Your little harlot tables, and your openly white supremacist, reactionary, misogynist, ignorant ignorsis is going to go the way of the lead miniatures we used to lick our fingers painting back in the day. It's going to fall off a cliff, and no one will miss it. When the last of the Old Guard croaks, and can no longer spend their Social Security checks on Deluxe Gold Embossed Masturbatory Anniversary Editions of AD&D, it will just end one day. These are the last days. Your beards are going gray, your fedoras are older and just a little bit battered, and no one wants to sell anymore, what you want to buy. There are no conventions for you. Very few online spaces. What you, what you sense, is very real.

The world is upside down, now. The people who you used to heap scorn upon, now they heap it upon you. There are more of them than there are of you. And if anyone on the sidelines feels sorry for you, they aren't going to do very much to defend you. You don't have allies. Woke people have allies. All you have is your bitterness, in a world that increasingly can't even see you. This isn't a fight. You're out of men, you're out of ammo. Your lines are being overrun...

If that's what you think, you are correct.

BadApple

Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 04:25:29 AM
As I said above, your viewpoint on whether the hobby has been taken over by Woke leftists really depends on your definitions. I mean, the Pundit, as a supporter of minorities, gender diversity, and women gamers, would be "woke" according to many people.

I have come to give you the word, and the word is good. According to definitions and implications often tossed around this site, it's all true. The RPG hobby has been subsumed into wokeness. As never before, people are talking about race, gender, sexuality, colonization and de-colonization, appropriation, feminism, and various intersectionalities, as never before. Even for people who did not respond with visceral disgust at the hadozee controversy, they can tell which the wind is blowing; even if they don't consider themselves woke, the mainstream gamer, the mainstream person, doesn't want to be thought of as a racist or misogynist. The economics are in favor of wokeness; people pander to the new awareness of all time, and court an image of being sensitive and inclusive. They actively scorn the dollars of reactionaries, because people who complain about "wokeness" and such are a dwindling group with little reach, and increasingly, fewer dollars to spend. People used to cackle, "Get woke, go broke," and the opposite has occurred. If you resist the overall progressive trend, your brand will suffer, your sales will suffer, and you personally will be chased to the ends of the Earth until you recant your heresy. The new social order, like any social order, will be enforced by all the usual tools: scorn, exclusion, and active disconnection in society and the economy. Anti-woke people are increasingly unpopular, in many corners unwelcome, and will ultimately become pariahs and eccentrics on the very fringes of the hobby.

This forum is unlike virtually any other gaming space on the Internet I can think of. It represents a realm where people can openly express disdain for minorities, for feminism, for social justice, for inclusion, and this is treated as within the range of normal opinions a person can have and still be respected in society. Not so, elsewhere. You will be sanctioned and even banned from discussion groups and entire spaces on many, if not most, sites. Here, people call being trans a "mental illness." You know who doesn't? People with actual expertise in mental illness. It's a bizarre phenomenon, people latching onto a pseudo-medical, pseudo-intellectual casting of the issue, when the very opinion indicates being decades behind the times, and increasingly retrograde with respect to the ethics and science of the 21st century. Calling transgender identity a mental illness is not simply politically incorrect or rude, it's just wrong and incorrect, in ways that show someone's lack of sophistication. It's like being a flat earther. It's not just socially repugnant and scientifically ignorant, it's embarrassing. It's like being ones of those guys who stands up in the US Sentate and says something stupid that reveals to the world they don't understand anything about pregnancy, the female orgasm, or what people under the age of 60 think about just about anything.

And it's only going to get worse. The Boomers had their day. They had their leftists and progressives. But ultimately, most of the ones in the US voted for Reagan. They were conservative enough that they liked Clinton, who ran on welfare "reform" and brokered a Devil's bargain in the form of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, ... honestly, the best deal we could get at the time. But after them came Gen X. And Gen X listened to Rage Against the Machine and smoked some weed and knew gay people and were fine with it. They wanted healthcare, and they hated cops, and increasingly were cynical about the initiatives the Boomers pushed through because they saw the real reasons. And Gen X grew up playing D&D. And now people are at age where Gen X is a bunch of the people writing, promoting, and publishing RPGs. And what you see, is what you think. By the very loose and open definitions of "wokeness" tossed around, Gen X is woke to its core.

But Gen X is a small generation. A buffer zone. And the ones who came after, the Millennials, have always had the Internet. They've always had gay people on TV. They are so against racism, some of them struggle to sense and understand it, because they think it's something from the Bad Old Days. But the Millennial generation is huge. Even Millennials who vote conservative, overwhelmingly take progressive stances on bread and butter issues of the day. They are going to increasingly replace Gen X as the writers, creators, influencers, and target demographic of RPGs. Increasingly, they will be the target of the next wave of nostalgia gaming. Story games and PbtA and everything is so old now, that people who cut their teeth on it, are going to be coming back to it. Somewhere out there, people are already writing the next generation of "old school" games, inspired by, and a commentary on, D&D 4e, on Pathfinder 1e. Millenials love woke shit. And they are the rulers of social media. If you can't adopt to modern norms, they will hit you with the force of the ocean. You will not survive, financially, socially, demographically. They will bury you.

And the zoomers? Little bitty woke goblins. Some of them are in college now. And they are the wokest little fuckers you've ever met. Sure, the majority are racist, misogynist, homophobic little pukes, but it's the smallest majority in history. And they all know their own wedge, and they protect it. Little woke Asian zoomers making fun of crusty, hilarious Oriental Adventures bullcrap. Woke little gaymers, gay as they want to be. Baby bronies. People who view essentially every Final Fantasy game as vintage, "dad gaming." They watch anime, absolutely the gayest anime, and they don't apologize for it.

The world you knew, is over. Your little harlot tables, and your openly white supremacist, reactionary, misogynist, ignorant ignorsis is going to go the way of the lead miniatures we used to lick our fingers painting back in the day. It's going to fall off a cliff, and no one will miss it. When the last of the Old Guard croaks, and can no longer spend their Social Security checks on Deluxe Gold Embossed Masturbatory Anniversary Editions of AD&D, it will just end one day. These are the last days. Your beards are going gray, your fedoras are older and just a little bit battered, and no one wants to sell anymore, what you want to buy. There are no conventions for you. Very few online spaces. What you, what you sense, is very real.

The world is upside down, now. The people who you used to heap scorn upon, now they heap it upon you. There are more of them than there are of you. And if anyone on the sidelines feels sorry for you, they aren't going to do very much to defend you. You don't have allies. Woke people have allies. All you have is your bitterness, in a world that increasingly can't even see you. This isn't a fight. You're out of men, you're out of ammo. Your lines are being overrun...

If that's what you think, you are correct.

Aw, big feelings.

Also, no one is reading that wall of text.
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

pawsplay

Well, I got a reaction out of you. You don't even have to read it to know what I said. You know the truth.