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Are Trans PoC Gamers the Future of D&D?

Started by RPGPundit, October 23, 2023, 09:55:31 PM

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pawsplay

#105
December 14, 2023, 04:30:40 PM
Well, I've been queering RPGs since 1983, I don't see any reason to stop now.

GeekyBugle

#106
December 14, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 14, 2023, 04:30:40 PM
Well, I've been queering RPGs since 1983, I don't see any reason to stop now.

Yeah, you and the rest of the 0.01% of the population are going to make Hasbro soooooo many billions they won't need to market to anyone else...

Dumbass.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

pawsplay

#107
December 14, 2023, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 14, 2023, 04:30:40 PM
Well, I've been queering RPGs since 1983, I don't see any reason to stop now.

Yeah, you and the rest of the 0.01% of the population are going to make Hasbro soooooo many billions they won't need to market to anyone else...

Dumbass.

You're off by a factor of 100. For octagenerians. For Zoomers, you're off by a factor of 2000.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/719685/american-adults-who-identify-as-homosexual-bisexual-transgender-by-generation/

KindaMeh

#108
December 14, 2023, 08:14:05 PM
Dang. Didn't know that. There is definitely a societal/cultural component. Can't be biology sitting alone on a throne behind that rise, because the numbers would outright not make sense. Maybe WotC is betting on that demographic trend.

That said, still think preferencing specific emerging demographics is a sketchy way to conduct business. Both more generally, and if you're a brand that used to, within the past decade or two, try and appeal to a wide audience. Also just in general, I prefer brands that don't actively want me as an individual or as an identity, out of the hobby, to the point of saying they don't want white males of standard or cis or whatever bent.

GeekyBugle

#109
December 14, 2023, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: KindaMeh on December 14, 2023, 08:14:05 PM
Dang. Didn't know that. There is definitely a societal/cultural component. Can't be biology sitting alone on a throne behind that rise, because the numbers would outright not make sense. Maybe WotC is betting on that demographic trend.

That said, still think preferencing specific emerging demographics is a sketchy way to conduct business. Both more generally, and if you're a brand that used to, within the past decade or two, try and appeal to a wide audience. Also just in general, I prefer brands that don't actively want me as an individual or as an identity, out of the hobby, to the point of saying they don't want white males of standard or cis or whatever bent.

It's social contagion.

Pretty easy to be trendy and cool when you don't need to actually eat dick or munch carpets to call yourself queer.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#110
December 14, 2023, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 14, 2023, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 14, 2023, 04:30:40 PM
Well, I've been queering RPGs since 1983, I don't see any reason to stop now.

Yeah, you and the rest of the 0.01% of the population are going to make Hasbro soooooo many billions they won't need to market to anyone else...

Dumbass.

You're off by a factor of 100. For octagenerians. For Zoomers, you're off by a factor of 2000.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/719685/american-adults-who-identify-as-homosexual-bisexual-transgender-by-generation/

Nice attempt but you fail:

LGBTQ

What does the Q stand for?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GnomeWorks

#111
December 14, 2023, 08:54:55 PM
Quote from: jhkim on December 14, 2023, 12:08:10 PMMaybe DMs should have a test, and players allowed to play tieflings and half-orcs and such only if they prove they don't have anti-humanist or queering reasons?

If I'm doing checks on a person to see if they're good for my table, my basic sniff test is to see if they'd want to play a tiefling and/or a warlock.

If the answer to either is "yes," they're not a good fit.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 14, 2023, 04:30:40 PMWell, I've been queering RPGs since 1983, I don't see any reason to stop now.

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
Mechanics should reflect flavor. Always.
Running: Chrono Break: Dragon Heist + Curse of the Crimson Throne (D&D 5e).
Planning: Rappan Athuk (D&D 5e).

yosemitemike

#112
December 14, 2023, 09:14:12 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 08:24:38 PM

It's social contagion.

Pretty easy to be trendy and cool when you don't need to actually eat dick or munch carpets to call yourself queer.

Here's an interesting bit.  The number of people identifying as LGBTQ+ has increased dramatically in recent years but people's reported sexual behavior has not changed.  There are a lot of people saying that they are queer (whatever that means) but no more people actually engaging in same-sex sexual behavior.  Hell, I'm queer.  I have referred to Jason Momoa as Big Sexy.  I declare myself to be queer.  Have I ever had sex with another man?  No but that's not required.  I said I am so I am.  You can't disprove it and aren't even allowed to question it.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

pawsplay

#113
December 14, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 08:34:03 PM
Nice attempt but you fail:

LGBTQ

What does the Q stand for?

Queefing.

GeekyBugle

#114
December 14, 2023, 09:27:57 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 14, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 08:34:03 PM
Nice attempt but you fail:

LGBTQ

What does the Q stand for?

Queefing.

Nice to see you admit defeat. Does it taste bitter?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

pawsplay

#115
December 14, 2023, 09:29:45 PM
I honestly don't understand where you were going with that. You win, I guess.

GeekyBugle

#116
December 14, 2023, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 14, 2023, 09:14:12 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 08:24:38 PM

It's social contagion.

Pretty easy to be trendy and cool when you don't need to actually eat dick or munch carpets to call yourself queer.

Here's an interesting bit.  The number of people identifying as LGBTQ+ has increased dramatically in recent years but people's reported sexual behavior has not changed.  There are a lot of people saying that they are queer (whatever that means) but no more people actually engaging in same-sex sexual behavior.  Hell, I'm queer.  I have referred to Jason Momoa as Big Sexy.  I declare myself to be queer.  Have I ever had sex with another man?  No but that's not required.  I said I am so I am.  You can't disprove it and aren't even allowed to question it.

You don't even need to feel attracted to the same sex, just declare yourself Allosexual and bingo you're one of the two gazillion of mental disorders genders.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

yosemitemike

#117
December 14, 2023, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 09:33:50 PM
You don't even need to feel attracted to the same sex, just declare yourself Allosexual and bingo you're one of the two gazillion of mental disorders genders.

There's a bunch of these that are so ill-defined as to be meaningless (queer) or are just heterosexuality with extra steps (demisexual).  Also, it's easy to declare myself bisexual or pansexual or allosexual or whatever even though my actual behavior is and always has been heterosexual.     
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Darrin Kelley

#118
December 14, 2023, 10:52:48 PM
To answer Pundit's question. They have always been a part of D&D. They just didn't raise too much of a stink.

The problem is the corporations politicizing the issue. Trying to virtue signal with the issue.

I'm an old school D&D fan. I preferred the Elmore and Caldwell art far more than what they are putting in the D&D books today.
 

pawsplay

#119
December 14, 2023, 11:37:06 PM
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 14, 2023, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 14, 2023, 09:33:50 PM
You don't even need to feel attracted to the same sex, just declare yourself Allosexual and bingo you're one of the two gazillion of mental disorders genders.

There's a bunch of these that are so ill-defined as to be meaningless (queer) or are just heterosexuality with extra steps (demisexual).  Also, it's easy to declare myself bisexual or pansexual or allosexual or whatever even though my actual behavior is and always has been heterosexual.     

No one's stopping you.
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