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Are RPG companies overwhelmingly woke?

Started by Coffeecup, October 23, 2023, 12:51:02 PM

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SHARK

Quote from: Exploderwizard on November 27, 2023, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: SHARK on November 27, 2023, 01:26:51 PM
Greetings!

"White Cishet male worldview"? WTF?

What a fucking clown. Clearly, he is a brainwashed, Leftist moron.

Normal white cultural standards are dominant--OH NOES! We live in a country that is majority WHITE, and the majority are NORMAL.

Don't like it? REEEE some more, and go pound sand.

Fuck the degenerate, Leftist retards.

The gaming hobby, and society as a whole, is far better without these degenerate Leftist morons. They should be sent to special asylums with rubber rooms, where they are pumped full of animal medicines.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

LOL! Since that is unlikely to happen, we should concentrate on spaying and neutering them early so they don't reproduce.

Greetings!

Oh yes, my friend! That would definitely be needed! The Leftists are like filthy, diseased rats. Always whispering, giggling, scheming to spread their hateful ideology. Just look at how insidious they are with their attempts to change language and words within our hobby? It is disgusting.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

SHARK

Greetings!

Oh yes. The American public, the gaming hobby public, so full of fucking "white supremacist and misogynism"!!! They need to be properly re-educated, right Comrade?

The smugness, the self-righteous elitism these Leftist morons have, it is mind-boggling.

Our hobby needs to drive these morons out of the hobby, ruthlessly. Laugh at them. Mock them relentlessly. Challenge them and their evil ideology, whenever they open their degenerate mouths. Never let them rest. Hound them ferociously and without mercy.

Trond, you make excellent arguments and testimony as to why the Leftist idiots need to be relentlessly opposed, everywhere, at all times. Look how your convention-going has been utterly ruined and corrupted by these troglodytes! Sad, my friend. So sad!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Eirikrautha

Quote from: pawsplay on November 27, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: Krazz on November 26, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
As I thought: you can't back up your claim with even a single piece of evidence. Thanks for playing. Next time, come prepared. Or better yet, choose a position based on fact rather than your feelings.

What are you basing your argument on? One guy? I literally am a writer in the RPG industry, and I know tons of people in the RPG industry. And blessedly few are right-wing reactionaries. Yeah, there's always a lot of work to be done educating mainstream people about how they've been tainted by white supremacist and misogynist ideology, but at least, in principle, most people are reasonably educated and are committed to a civil society. What do you expect me to do, cite someone's peer-reviewed study? I actually live in reality and I'm just not moved by, "Well, hey, this one white guy peed in his own pants crying about how woke everything is" and it's that guy I'm worried about, not the industry.

I wish the RPG industry were progressive, or even consistently a mainstream ally. If you don't see it that way, you're just lucky not to be affected by random dickery. In fact, you are likely part of the problem, but I'm offering you the benefit of the doubt, as well as making this argument in case anyone is actually listening.

Quote from: Fheredin on November 27, 2023, 09:41:22 AM
The RPG industry is currently made up of two groups; those who are hardcore leftists, and those who shut up about politics because they know they might get deplatformed.

Who are those people? Sure as fuck not people on this board. Some people will openly acknowledge all sorts of stuff people in civil society wouldn't be caught saying.  In fact, the right-wing shit baboons have never felt more free to comment whatever they feel like saying. The RPG industry is plagued by people who think their opinions are worth sharing. Nobody shuts up.

I know very few "hardcore leftists." I know a few, but they're nice people. Most people are not hardcore, really not even leftists. Just people who acknowledge modern governance and justice, and believe people have rights and value. Most are fine with mainstream Democratic politics, plenty would be happy to even vote for Romney. They are just regular, everyday people, who write RPG books.

Also btw I am Gen X, and Gen X is really driving social progress in gaming. They are older, more employed, and tired of boomer shit. If you think "millennials" are ruining gaming, sorry, you overslept your nap, grandpa.

Rando on Internet claims to be "insider"!  News at 11!

Lots of the folks on this board are also writers, designers or industry vets, and are pretty open about what they have worked on.  So, I'm gonna need some receipts...
"Testosterone levels vary widely among women, just like other secondary sex characteristics like breast size or body hair. If you eliminate anyone with elevated testosterone, it's like eliminating athletes because their boobs aren't big enough or because they're too hairy." -- jhkim

Domina

Quote from: pawsplay on November 26, 2023, 12:17:15 AM
I guess it depends on what you mean by "overwhelming" and "woke." Do the majority of game writers prefer not to insult their customer case and prefer not to propagate reactionary viewpoints, including ones that in many cases would oppress themselves? Yeah. OTOH, the idea that the game industry is "woke" is a joke, it still overwhelmingly caters to a white cishet male viewpoint, a mainstream viewpoint that mirrors everything out in the real world. Leftists *wish* game companies were real leftists. But as it is, we've reached the level of "reasonably polite." Which some people hate.

So they cater to the correct viewpoint. Also nobody's oppressing you and it's good to be reactionary.

Domina

Quote from: pawsplay on November 27, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: Krazz on November 26, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
As I thought: you can't back up your claim with even a single piece of evidence. Thanks for playing. Next time, come prepared. Or better yet, choose a position based on fact rather than your feelings.

What are you basing your argument on? One guy? I literally am a writer in the RPG industry, and I know tons of people in the RPG industry. And blessedly few are right-wing reactionaries. Yeah, there's always a lot of work to be done educating mainstream people about how they've been tainted by white supremacist and misogynist ideology, but at least, in principle, most people are reasonably educated and are committed to a civil society. What do you expect me to do, cite someone's peer-reviewed study? I actually live in reality and I'm just not moved by, "Well, hey, this one white guy peed in his own pants crying about how woke everything is" and it's that guy I'm worried about, not the industry.

I wish the RPG industry were progressive, or even consistently a mainstream ally. If you don't see it that way, you're just lucky not to be affected by random dickery. In fact, you are likely part of the problem, but I'm offering you the benefit of the doubt, as well as making this argument in case anyone is actually listening.

Quote from: Fheredin on November 27, 2023, 09:41:22 AM
The RPG industry is currently made up of two groups; those who are hardcore leftists, and those who shut up about politics because they know they might get deplatformed.

Who are those people? Sure as fuck not people on this board. Some people will openly acknowledge all sorts of stuff people in civil society wouldn't be caught saying.  In fact, the right-wing shit baboons have never felt more free to comment whatever they feel like saying. The RPG industry is plagued by people who think their opinions are worth sharing. Nobody shuts up.

I know very few "hardcore leftists." I know a few, but they're nice people. Most people are not hardcore, really not even leftists. Just people who acknowledge modern governance and justice, and believe people have rights and value. Most are fine with mainstream Democratic politics, plenty would be happy to even vote for Romney. They are just regular, everyday people, who write RPG books.

Also btw I am Gen X, and Gen X is really driving social progress in gaming. They are older, more employed, and tired of boomer shit. If you think "millennials" are ruining gaming, sorry, you overslept your nap, grandpa.

Tradition is good and the right wing is correct about everything.

pawsplay

Quote from: Eirikrautha on November 27, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
Rando on Internet claims to be "insider"!  News at 11!

Lots of the folks on this board are also writers, designers or industry vets, and are pretty open about what they have worked on.  So, I'm gonna need some receipts...

Where do I claim to be an insider? I'm professing to know readily available, commonplace information.

rgalex

Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 12:19:37 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on November 27, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
Rando on Internet claims to be "insider"!  News at 11!

Lots of the folks on this board are also writers, designers or industry vets, and are pretty open about what they have worked on.  So, I'm gonna need some receipts...

Where do I claim to be an insider? I'm professing to know readily available, commonplace information.

Maybe this?

Quote from: pawsplay on November 27, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
I literally am a writer in the RPG industry, and I know tons of people in the RPG industry.

pawsplay

So which is it? Am I the rando, or am I an insider? All I said was that I'm a writer, which is true.

jhkim

Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 08:37:29 PM
So which is it? Am I the rando, or am I an insider? All I said was that I'm a writer, which is true.

I think there might be a clash of terms here. I'd say a writer is a professional, but not necessarily an insider if they only submit, rather than being on the decision-making side of things.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 08:37:29 PM
So which is it? Am I the rando, or am I an insider? All I said was that I'm a writer, which is true.

I must say that for a "trans" you have some big cojones to be lying right below someone providing the EXACT quote.

Quote from: pawsplay on November 27, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
I literally am a writer in the RPG industry, and I know tons of people in the RPG industry.

Bolded the part about being an insider.
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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Eirikrautha

Quote from: jhkim on November 29, 2023, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 08:37:29 PM
So which is it? Am I the rando, or am I an insider? All I said was that I'm a writer, which is true.

I think there might be a clash of terms here. I'd say a writer is a professional, but not necessarily an insider if they only submit, rather than being on the decision-making side of things.

Stupid and irrelevant opinion noted.
"Testosterone levels vary widely among women, just like other secondary sex characteristics like breast size or body hair. If you eliminate anyone with elevated testosterone, it's like eliminating athletes because their boobs aren't big enough or because they're too hairy." -- jhkim

Eirikrautha

Quote from: pawsplay on November 29, 2023, 08:37:29 PM
So which is it? Am I the rando, or am I an insider? All I said was that I'm a writer, which is true.

No, you claimed to know lots of people in the industry, know what they think and feel, and have information about what opinions were prevalent among the majority of people in the industry.  So post your C.V., or admit that you are lying/exaggerating (or delusional... and based on everything else you've said, that would be the logical inference...)
"Testosterone levels vary widely among women, just like other secondary sex characteristics like breast size or body hair. If you eliminate anyone with elevated testosterone, it's like eliminating athletes because their boobs aren't big enough or because they're too hairy." -- jhkim

pawsplay

I mean, you know me, so I guess you all are insiders, too.

MeganovaStella

I will immediately derail this thread by espousing a belief in Moral Nihilism and demand evidence that morality is intrinsic to the universe.

yosemitemike

Quote from: pawsplay on November 30, 2023, 12:20:27 AM
I mean, you know me, so I guess you all are insiders, too.

The only things that I know about you is that you are a left wing barking moonbat ranter and that you are prone to making sweeping assumptions about people motives and beliefs based on, essentially, nothing at all.
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