Most of the Leftist members of this board can't be expected to operate in good faith discussions, so it's simpler to block them so you don't drag yourself and everyone else down into pointless bickering.

Quote from: Zelen on November 26, 2023, 04:17:28 PM
Most of the Leftist members of this board can't be expected to operate in good faith discussions, so it's simpler to block them so you don't drag yourself and everyone else down into pointless bickering.

That's good advice - life is too short to waste on bad-faith discussions. I've blocked Pawsplay.

Quote from: Brad on November 26, 2023, 09:49:41 AMLeftist pretending to be a moderate while trashing Christianity. Same old song and dance.

Alternate hypothesis: I at least prefer to think of myself as centrist, but what is being presented as the perspective of the right is so far to the right that even centrists look like leftists? (That's a common argument I see being made, but probably by those on the Left. I am no Libertarian, however, and wish them all the best of fun on their next island.)

And I do try to be equitable in trashing all religions, though importantly not Faith--just organised religion. It's pretty hard to have a problem with people that live their lives by the (Christian) Word and are good, wholesome people that practice their faith. You'll find many of them living in the Bible Belt (as I do). Same with people of other faiths.

You'll also find people that leverage religion for political gain, which is where I would take a bit of umbrage. I'm very much a fan of Jefferson's Wall of Separation (even if he is one of my least-favourite presidents) and kudos to him for arguing with Madison on the enumeration of the Bill of Rights. (It's hard enough seeing how SCOTUS has handled the Bill of Rights in general over the past forty years, let alone before one gets into the farce of textual originalism.)

Still, I struggle with the concept of faith myself. I'm not atheist or agnostic--just searching for something that resonates. Heck, even within Christianity the closest sect that resonated with me was, IIRC, put to the torture/flame/general maimy-death in the 16th century for going against the (Catholic) Church.

But we're veering (even more) OffT, so apologies for that. I just sometimes wish that perspectives were not so fragile.

Ah well.

Quote from: Kage2020 on November 26, 2023, 05:08:34 PM

Quote from: Brad on November 26, 2023, 09:49:41 AMLeftist pretending to be a moderate while trashing Christianity. Same old song and dance.

Alternate hypothesis: I at least prefer to think of myself as centrist, but what is being presented as the perspective of the right is so far to the right that even centrists look like leftists? (That's a common argument I see being made, but probably by those on the Left. I am no Libertarian, however, and wish them all the best of fun on their next island.)

And I do try to be equitable in trashing all religions, though importantly not Faith--just organised religion. It's pretty hard to have a problem with people that live their lives by the (Christian) Word and are good, wholesome people that practice their faith. You'll find many of them living in the Bible Belt (as I do). Same with people of other faiths.

You'll also find people that leverage religion for political gain, which is where I would take a bit of umbrage. I'm very much a fan of Jefferson's Wall of Separation (even if he is one of my least-favourite presidents) and kudos to him for arguing with Madison on the enumeration of the Bill of Rights. (It's hard enough seeing how SCOTUS has handled the Bill of Rights in general over the past forty years, let alone before one gets into the farce of textual originalism.)

Still, I struggle with the concept of faith myself. I'm not atheist or agnostic--just searching for something that resonates. Heck, even within Christianity the closest sect that resonated with me was, IIRC, put to the torture/flame/general maimy-death in the 16th century for going against the (Catholic) Church.

But we're veering (even more) OffT, so apologies for that. I just sometimes wish that perspectives were not so fragile.

Ah well.

You know, you could have left his statement unanswered, since you spent a couple of hundred words basically saying exactly what he stated.

Quote from: Krazz on November 26, 2023, 04:26:03 PM

Quote from: Zelen on November 26, 2023, 04:17:28 PM
Most of the Leftist members of this board can't be expected to operate in good faith discussions, so it's simpler to block them so you don't drag yourself and everyone else down into pointless bickering.

That's good advice - life is too short to waste on bad-faith discussions. I've blocked Pawsplay.

Why would you expect people who can't even fathom basic biology to follow a logical chain of thought...?  You've chosen the correct option...

The RPG industry is currently made up of two groups; those who are hardcore leftists, and those who shut up about politics because they know they might get deplatformed. The biggest studios are overwhelmingly in the first category, so by volume RPG companies are overwhelmingly woke, but by studio it's more center-left because right-leaning opinions self-censor.

You have to speak fluent Leftist Gobbledygook to network at conventions.

RPG Pundit is something of an exception in this regard, and there are probably a few others I don't know. But at the same time Pundit is enough if a pariah that most publishers see what he is and choose not to risk their public lives engaging in politics. The problem isn't exactly that companies are overwhelmingly woke, but that right-leaning opinions self-censor to protect their careers over their politics.

Quote from: pawsplay on November 26, 2023, 12:17:15 AM
...caters to a white cishet male viewpoint, a mainstream viewpoint that mirrors everything out in the real world.

If a viewpoint mirrors everything in the real world, why do you need to impose an adjective on it other than "real"? And an imaginary adjective at that.

Let's not forget that most of the trade-shows and conventions are woke-as-fuck too. Years ago, participation in these events were pretty necessary on some level to make money beyond being a small team success.

A lot of independent studios developers are not politically left (in the modern sense) at all. But they do some bare whiff of acknowledgement to the madness stay of the mob's radar.

That said - find your tolerance level and vote with your dollars accordingly.

Greetings!

"White Cishet male worldview"? WTF?

What a fucking clown. Clearly, he is a brainwashed, Leftist moron.

Normal white cultural standards are dominant--OH NOES! We live in a country that is majority WHITE, and the majority are NORMAL.

Don't like it? REEEE some more, and go pound sand.

Fuck the degenerate, Leftist retards.

The gaming hobby, and society as a whole, is far better without these degenerate Leftist morons. They should be sent to special asylums with rubber rooms, where they are pumped full of animal medicines.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on November 27, 2023, 01:26:51 PM
Greetings!

"White Cishet male worldview"? WTF?

What a fucking clown. Clearly, he is a brainwashed, Leftist moron.

Normal white cultural standards are dominant--OH NOES! We live in a country that is majority WHITE, and the majority are NORMAL.

Don't like it? REEEE some more, and go pound sand.

Fuck the degenerate, Leftist retards.

The gaming hobby, and society as a whole, is far better without these degenerate Leftist morons. They should be sent to special asylums with rubber rooms, where they are pumped full of animal medicines.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

LOL! Since that is unlikely to happen, we should concentrate on spaying and neutering them early so they don't reproduce.

Well right now, Gen X has the highest exposable income.  Millennials have some of the worse indicators for any generation in US history, from economics to politics.  Millennials are not working and are a large demographic.  Gen Z is smaller, but are much more closer to the norm for American values and they have jobs and money to spend.

The smarter companies would be putting out content aimed at Gen X and Gen Z and bypass the Millennials as a demographic with no spend and fucked up values.

The more a company goes work and puts in weird leftist ideology over game play and fun, the worse the game will actually do.  Look at Hasbro, in 5 years they have lost 50% of their stock value and its not going any better for them because they are building products for the most cynical and authoritarian generation - Millennials.

Quote from: Krazz on November 26, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
As I thought: you can't back up your claim with even a single piece of evidence. Thanks for playing. Next time, come prepared. Or better yet, choose a position based on fact rather than your feelings.

What are you basing your argument on? One guy? I literally am a writer in the RPG industry, and I know tons of people in the RPG industry. And blessedly few are right-wing reactionaries. Yeah, there's always a lot of work to be done educating mainstream people about how they've been tainted by white supremacist and misogynist ideology, but at least, in principle, most people are reasonably educated and are committed to a civil society. What do you expect me to do, cite someone's peer-reviewed study? I actually live in reality and I'm just not moved by, "Well, hey, this one white guy peed in his own pants crying about how woke everything is" and it's that guy I'm worried about, not the industry.

I wish the RPG industry were progressive, or even consistently a mainstream ally. If you don't see it that way, you're just lucky not to be affected by random dickery. In fact, you are likely part of the problem, but I'm offering you the benefit of the doubt, as well as making this argument in case anyone is actually listening.

Quote from: Fheredin on November 27, 2023, 09:41:22 AM
The RPG industry is currently made up of two groups; those who are hardcore leftists, and those who shut up about politics because they know they might get deplatformed.

Who are those people? Sure as fuck not people on this board. Some people will openly acknowledge all sorts of stuff people in civil society wouldn't be caught saying.  In fact, the right-wing shit baboons have never felt more free to comment whatever they feel like saying. The RPG industry is plagued by people who think their opinions are worth sharing. Nobody shuts up.

I know very few "hardcore leftists." I know a few, but they're nice people. Most people are not hardcore, really not even leftists. Just people who acknowledge modern governance and justice, and believe people have rights and value. Most are fine with mainstream Democratic politics, plenty would be happy to even vote for Romney. They are just regular, everyday people, who write RPG books.

Also btw I am Gen X, and Gen X is really driving social progress in gaming. They are older, more employed, and tired of boomer shit. If you think "millennials" are ruining gaming, sorry, you overslept your nap, grandpa.

In general, I find it strange when some people seem to doubt how far out of hand it has gotten in society and in geek culture specifically. Just as one example; last time I went to Comic-Con a few years ago BLM had a strong presence there, milling around the corridors warning about "microaggressions", claiming a Whoopi Goldberg fan was wearing blackface (not sure if true, and don't care) and ruined the mood for a lot of people. Of course there were also all sorts of woke panels and discussions, and keep in mind this is one of the largest "geek events" anywhere.

Quote from: Trond on November 27, 2023, 05:24:48 PM
In general, I find it strange when some people seem to doubt how far out of hand it has gotten in society and in geek culture specifically. Just as one example; last time I went to Comic-Con a few years ago BLM had a strong presence there, milling around the corridors warning about "microaggressions", claiming a Whoopi Goldberg fan was wearing blackface (not sure if true, and don't care) and ruined the mood for a lot of people. Of course there were also all sorts of woke panels and discussions, and keep in mind this is one of the largest "geek events" anywhere.

They are there to exert political power, think of the brown shirts doing a march in town to try to intimidate the citizenry.  Give them the respect they deserve, nothing and deride them personally is the best course of action.  Authoritarians of a feather flock together.

Quote from: Eirikrautha on November 26, 2023, 09:43:11 PM
You know, you could have left his statement unanswered, since you spent a couple of hundred words basically saying exactly what he stated.

They get paid by the word, so I have read.