Apropos of nothing, but when 40k first came out White Dwarf, as it began to change, had a plastic record insert called Blood for the Blood God by a band called Sabbat.

Quote from: RPGPundit;507031Blood Bowl was awesome.

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I prefer Darkbowl

You mock, but just imagine what "blood bowl" would look like done by the current grimdark fetishists for the current crop of fascism-fanboys who are their market?

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Quote from: RPGPundit;507508You mock, but just imagine what "blood bowl" would look like done by the current grimdark fetishists for the current crop of fascism-fanboys who are their market?

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what grimdark fetishists? I've never seen, heard nor encountered such a phenomena anywhere on or offline.

Original 40k was no less a serious setting. It may have become more gothic over the years, which is what you mean by grimdark (other than silly fluff, such as the grey knight stuff i hear about, which i think is typical of nothing), but that is what lends the setting it's black humour, which is there.

In the end the setting exists primarily for a wargame, so of course, in the grim darkness of the 41st millenium there is only war. The only person I see taking the grimdark as seriously as you purport is you. The kids playing the game may have a preponderance toward long hair leather and metal, but they are just people that enjoy a social hobby. I really don't know what your problem is.

Pundit likes rail against the enemies in his head. He has quite the imagination.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;507218Apropos of nothing, but when 40k first came out White Dwarf, as it began to change, had a plastic record insert called Blood for the Blood God by a band called Sabbat.

Yep... I've still got mine around here somewhere. I'd never bothered to listen to it until I spotted it on Youtube.

I might out myself as an unrefined plebs or whatever now, but I actually do like the WH40k setting. At times I even enjoy it without any humour. It is a great place to be a hero.

It's funny I just read GURPS Abdyos and can't help thinking it's about the darkest rpg book I've ever read.  Set in Yrth, a setting that's essentially an SCA theme park world, of all places.

The city is home to the Lazerite heresy that maintains that Lazerus not Peter was the true head of the church after Christ and that necromancy is a holy sacrament.  Skeletons work the fields and are sold in the markets.  Zombies are created and then turned into skeletons in acid baths as they'd be a public health risk.

I don't know, something about the bland, dry backdrop just really makes the horror stand out.  In 40k you get numb to the pierced cyborg cherubrum and serviors after a while.

It's a bit like the fat, incompetent psycho killer in Sandman's Cereal Convention issue being the scariest of the lot because he stalks his victims at an amusement park and the management knows it's going on and keeps it hushed up.

That said roleplaying in the 40k universe doesn't really appeal to me and I doubt Abdyos will ever appear in my current GURPS Fantasy campaign.

I find 40k an easier prospect to game than Judge Dredd simply because playing a Judge really is playing a two dimensional character (YMMV for grud's sake).