Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1031483Well, according to the CR guys, they don't change anything about how they play. They just broadcast it.

I think it's very common for folks to do casting calls and have quotas for their home games.


I'd love to live stream my games but I don't have a soul patch.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1031162"It's fun, who cares" was the overwhelming answer.

But that was 10 years ago. Things have gotten SUPER SERIOUS since then.
I wonder if the answer would be the same today.

Quote from: AsenRG;1031214Also, this thread reminds me of trains as well. Trains that are about to crash;).

Cue the Randy Rhoads guitar solo!!

Quote from: tenbones;1031234But I'm not going to say that while I don't care, the rise of Critical Role and their ilk haven't had their soy-smelling milquetoast flotsam come beaching itself on my shores.

And THAT is why Tenbones is the Poobah of the D.O.N.G.!

Quote from: S'mon;1031266Maybe Britain is different

The British certainly do mispronounce a lot of words!

Quote from: tenbones;1031480I have no idea if it's sub-conscious or it's the format. There's a larger "silliness for silliness's sake"-factor going on and I can't shake the gut-instinct it's for the camera.

Your gurgling bowels speak the truth.

It's nigh-universal for people to act differently when they know they are being recorded and broadcast. You see that with the news, TV interviews with non-celebs and putting people at ease and forgetting the camera is a notable skill that you only see with better interviewers.

Now mix that human impulse with the realization recorded RPG sessions can be monetized and act as "fame" vehicles...

There is no question Critical Role and other monetized Youtubers are creating entertainment for their audience and the continued profits from their audience engagement is FAR more important than WTF game they are playing.

It's ironic, but its actually counterproductive for their fans to become gamers. If their viewers have a regular outlet for gaming IRL, those fans-turned-gamers may not need to tune in for their "gaming fix."

Quote from: Spinachcat;1031502Your gurgling bowels speak the truth.

It's nigh-universal for people to act differently when they know they are being recorded and broadcast. You see that with the news, TV interviews with non-celebs and putting people at ease and forgetting the camera is a notable skill that you only see with better interviewers.

Now mix that human impulse with the realization recorded RPG sessions can be monetized and act as "fame" vehicles...

There is no question Critical Role and other monetized Youtubers are creating entertainment for their audience and the continued profits from their audience engagement is FAR more important than WTF game they are playing.

It's ironic, but its actually counterproductive for their fans to become gamers. If their viewers have a regular outlet for gaming IRL, those fans-turned-gamers may not need to tune in for their "gaming fix."

But most gamers are not using podcasts, twitch or youtube like that. I am sure plenty would want 100,000 or more followers, and would love the money if it comes to them. But most of these channels are people dicking around with games and sharing it with a small, like-minded audience. Becoming a youtube celebrity or a professional streaming GM is quite the long shot. I think most folks are doing this to share things online and connect, but not because they think they'll make a million dollars (or even 50 dollars: I've had monetized youtube and blog for years and can probably get a cup of coffee with the money at this point).

People should do what they want. If you want to stream, go for it. If the idea of it makes you sick, don't do it. I am having fun doing both non-recorded and recorded sessions (and at this point at least, not seeing a huge difference between the two). And one thing people here should keep in mind, this is something people are watching and it is going to affect how people play the game because many of these channels are being used as tutorials. Might as well get your respective playstyle out there in some form, so it isn't dwarfed by other approaches.

Quote from: tenbones;1031421You're doing Arioch's work. Bless you.

Which is actually pretty funny, as one of my nicknames is "The Lord Of Chaos" because of the way I run my Braunsteins. Others have called me Lord Yama, from "Lord of Light". I will be raising up my Aspect on June 16th of this year for Free RPG Day; you pays your money and you takes your chances...

Quote from: chirine ba kal;1031298I tried very hard to be a gatekeeper, yesterday, but I think I'm not very good at it. Had a person who'd been watching Critical Roll come in to the FLGS to see what this RPG thing was all about, and I talked to them for most of the afternoon about the hobby and the history of the thing. They're now doing their first miniatures, and will be coming to RPG sessions at the FLGS.

So, I am a failure at being an elderly white male gatekeeper, keeping people out of the hobby. Hopefully, I can get some remedial training or something.

(Try not to trip over the heavy sarcasm on the floor, there. Thanks.)

If the person came in wanting to game, then there's no reason to gatekeep. We want everyone to game.

Am I my brother's/sister's gatekeeper?

Quote from: tenbones;1031629Am I my brother's/sister's gatekeeper?

"The Lord said, 'What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the YouTube browser'"

Lord Arioch! It makes the grass grow!!!!!

Quote from: tenbones;1031629Am I my brother's/sister's gatekeeper?

Contextually, my brothers and sisters here are the people who play RPGs.

Yeah, wargame grognards really gatekeep to keep women out of the hobby.  (Paul Stormberg photo, GaryCon X, "Don't give Up the Ship")

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Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1032033Yeah, wargame grognards really gatekeep to keep women out of the hobby.  (Paul Stormberg photo, GaryCon X, "Don't give Up the Ship")

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C'mon, we all know those are just Booth Babes/Fake Gamer Girls!

Quote from: RPGPundit;1031581If the person came in wanting to game, then there's no reason to gatekeep. We want everyone to game.

Having spent the last forty years trying to get people into the hobby, it was sarcasm, hence the note at the end of my comment.

Quote from: tenbones;1031480If people are content to run family-friendly adventures (and/or modules) great. But I maintain the point of gaming is not to be entertaining for a crowd, but for the players and so it'll be affected.

It doesn't necessarily have to be family friendly. Well not on Twitch at least they a have a "Mature Content" option. Also, GTA V has been one of the more popular recent games to stream and that is definitely not family friendly.  That said I get what you're saying about the camera's mere presence changing behaviour. It would be different from running your face to face game, but I reckon it'll still have possibilities for fun and a decent(ish) game.

Quote from: Weru;1032130It doesn't necessarily have to be family friendly. Well not on Twitch at least they a have a "Mature Content" option. Also, GTA V has been one of the more popular recent games to stream and that is definitely not family friendly.  That said I get what you're saying about the camera's mere presence changing behaviour. It would be different from running your face to face game, but I reckon it'll still have possibilities for fun and a decent(ish) game.

Possibly. I won't deny I'm sure my games would attract a lot of people that would probably get a kick out of my groups games.

But my personal interests are on my players and the game we share, not the nebulous lurkers and watchers who inevitably will want to chime in and offer their opinions on "who should have done what" or "I can't believe they didn't do " - etc. When in reality, those mere suggestions outside of a game are enough to impact the game going forward. I firmly believe a gaming group is like band, and chemistry is a big deal. But adding the camera would hugely impact that chemistry. I'm not saying there aren't players out there that would be immune to it. I'm saying it would be hard to assemble such a group to where the game itself wouldn't be impacted.

I'd be more interested in doing a fictional show about a group of people playing and RPG (like Knights of the Dinner Table-live action) than I would broadcasting an actual RPG game of mine.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1031971Contextually, my brothers and sisters here are the people who play RPGs.

/agreed