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Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Settembrini on October 30, 2006, 09:35:47 PM
What kewl stuf is there for aquatic adventures? I`m especially looking for three dimensional combat and exploration.

Adventures? (Got me Murky Deep, a bit disapointing)
Supplements? (Is Stormwrack useful or is it more for ship to ship combat?)
Maps?
d20 pdf products?
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Lawbag on October 31, 2006, 05:15:58 AM
DND had a Creature Crucible supplement called the Sea People - I think.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Abyssal Maw on October 31, 2006, 06:18:41 AM
Stormwrack is pretty good.

I mainly just write my own stuff though. We just finished a four session adventure that took place on a ship, and then partially underwater. Part of it involved exploring a sunken ship while having a water breathing spell in place, and then extended negotiations with a tribe of merfolk.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Sosthenes on October 31, 2006, 06:39:00 AM
D&D's "Sea People" supplement might be useful.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Settembrini on October 31, 2006, 07:01:02 AM
I already found the sea people thingamajig, and must say: impressive! Fantasy submarines, aquatic politics, awesome! There are other Creature Crucibles with more awesome, WWI-red baron-style gonzo gnomes dishing it out with repeating ballistas in their small planes against dragons! How ultra-cool is that?
Sadly, I had to buy from RPGNow, as Paizo didn´t have it.
BTW, the RPGNowversion has the adventure booklet twice in it, for whatever reason.

Still looking for three dimensional dungeons though...

@Stormwrack: how does it deal with undersea adventuring? I read it ismainly focused on shipt to ship and surface navy stuff.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Sosthenes on October 31, 2006, 07:12:35 AM
Quote from: SettembriniThere are other Creature Crucibles with more awesome, WWI-red baron-style gonzo gnomes dishing it out with repeating ballistas in their small planes against dragons! How ultra-cool is that?

"You can be my wing-gnome anytime!"

Yep. They called it "Top Ballista".

And it seems that Paizo _does_ have it (http://paizo.com/store/downloads/wizardsOfTheCoast/classicDAndD/rulebooks/v5748btpy7mxv).
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Settembrini on October 31, 2006, 07:17:54 AM
BTW, do you use another nick on german forae?
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Sosthenes on October 31, 2006, 08:52:15 AM
Nope, I've yet to find a decent German RP forum...
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Settembrini on October 31, 2006, 09:09:34 AM
Look here: http://hofrat.rollenspiel-berlin.de/Forum/index.php
There´s quite a smattering of illustrious people reading and some care to discuss.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Abyssal Maw on October 31, 2006, 10:32:01 AM
Ok, I actually have the book in my hand now:

Stormwrack has some underwater stuff in it: rules for depth pressure, drowning, hypothermia, and underwater light sources. There's also some bits about supernatural water hazards such as 'poisoned water' (inhaled by gilled creatures), airy water pockets, then 'airless water' that even fish can't survive in.

Some of the terrain types are cool and can be used in an underwater way: Coral reefs, ice floes, sargasso, kelp bed, etc. There's also bits for use in designing underwater encounter areas ('muck' terrain for example).

Sidebar on combat underwater (including spell effects) on page 21.  

Several underwater and amphibious PC races in the book, the usual prestige classes and feats as well. Some aquatic monsters are included. I did use my favorite dinosaur ( Plesiosaur) out of this book for an encounter a couple of weeks ago.  They have an amphibious template for monsters (example: amphibious medusa) and a 'water-adapted' template for animals & vermin (examples were a sea-snake and a water-spider).

There are four 'adventure locales' in the book and three of those are either partially or entirely underwater.

The Sable Drake (EL 5 pirate ship and crew)
Shatterhull Isle (EL 6 island with encounters)
Lost Temple of Sekolah (EL 9 underwater temple)
Tamorean Vast (EL 12 sunken ship graveyard)
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: RPGPundit on October 31, 2006, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: LawbagDND had a Creature Crucible supplement called the Sea People - I think.

Yes, and it was one of the best "undersea adventure" books I ever saw. The whole Creature Crucible series was really great, of the ones I saw (I never saw "night howlers" or whatever the werewolf one was).

RPGPundit
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: KenHR on October 31, 2006, 03:45:24 PM
Settembrini: you seem to be looking more at fantasy stuff, but I know you're a Traveller fan...have you seen the Gamelords book The Undersea Environment by the Keiths?

I literally just got hold of that book yesterday from eBay (three Environments books and Startown Liberty for $12!); has a lot that looks like it might be useful to you, though I haven't given it a good read yet.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Settembrini on October 31, 2006, 04:12:35 PM
The Keith supplements are the big hole in my collection. So much is written about them. So few copies in Europe...
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: KenHR on October 31, 2006, 09:12:43 PM
Bummer.  I'll probably be flipping through it over the next couple weeks, so I'll keep an eye out for anything useful.
Title: Aquatic Adventure Advice needed
Post by: Samarkand on October 31, 2006, 10:11:00 PM
There's also White Wolf's Blood Dimmed Tides.  Has a nice section on aquatic-oriented Vampires, and some neat story hooks.

Andrew