Title says it all. Anyone?

Yep. Using just the core book. I already have all the 1st edition books to get ideas from.

Quote from: rgrove0172;1041390Title says it all. Anyone?

No, it doesn't tell me what MgT2 is. I guess I'm not playing it if I can't identify the letters....

EDIT: Based on Shawn's signature I'm guessing "Mongoose Traveller 2"

I've been running a game for about a year now.  It's great fun and a real challenge for me creatively.

Players are mostly scientist and ex-navy.  Essentially they get paid to explore worlds, but do some trading and take on passengers for extra cash.

Has it been a year already, Vic99:)? Or were you part of the playtest?

Quote from: finarvyn;1041694No, it doesn't tell me what MgT2 is. I guess I'm not playing it if I can't identify the letters....

EDIT: Based on Shawn's signature I'm guessing "Mongoose Traveller 2"

Your guess was right;).

I was unaware that Mongoose Traveller had moved to a 2nd edition. I started off with CT back in the "little black books" era and took a short look at Mongoose's 1st edition stuff, but my group is so much more into fantasy than scifi that I haven't really even done much with Mongoose 1st edition.

Did they change a lot? For the better or worse?

Quote from: finarvyn;1042062Did they change a lot? For the better or worse?

The changed enough, and it was definitely for the worse. Save your money and don't buy MgT2e, I didn't and I was in the playtest.

Quote from: finarvyn;1042062I was unaware that Mongoose Traveller had moved to a 2nd edition. I started off with CT back in the "little black books" era and took a short look at Mongoose's 1st edition stuff, but my group is so much more into fantasy than scifi that I haven't really even done much with Mongoose 1st edition.

Did they change a lot? For the better or worse?

You don't need 2nd edition if you already have 1st edition.

Nope. It seemed to be an edition to make changes just to sell more books (and screw over 3rd parties), not actually improving the game.

Nope. A year and a half ago I did finish a campaign of the 1st edition.

Quote from: jeff37923;1042063The changed enough, and it was definitely for the worse. Save your money and don't buy MgT2e, I didn't and I was in the playtest.

In a few weeks, I am about to become a player in MgT2 game. I am very curious what the changes are, could you elaborate how 2nd edition ruined the game for you?

Quote from: Moracai;1042687In a few weeks, I am about to become a player in MgT2 game. I am very curious what the changes are, could you elaborate how 2nd edition ruined the game for you?

The editing was absolutely substandard - playtesters would send in lists of spelling and wording errors which were ignored. Several of the rules just do not function (animal encounter creation, vehicle combat, etc), and comments on them were ignored. I think it was a cash grab to separate the single Core Rulebook into two books (needlessly altering spacecraft rules and construction so that MgT1e and MgT2e ship stats are incompatible). The artwork is horrendous and the isometric drawing deckplans are useless at the table. The TAS licensing debacle which screwed over third party publishers so badly that they made their own game so as to not lose their IP (Cepheus Engine). I could go on...

Thing is, Mongoose did an excellent job with the Core Rulebook for MgT1e and then took a hot steaming shit on the Traveller fanbase with MgT2e.

And I should point out, Traveller as a game and hobby has not been ruined for me by this. What has been ruined is my faith in Mongoose's good intentions towards its fans.

Thanks a bunch for the clarifications Jeff!

Seems like that since I'm sitting on the player side of the table, I don't need to concern myself with most of the things you mentioned. Sad to hear about the cash grab change-for-changes-sake, and I had previously read a bit about the licensing debacle, but thought nothing much of it because of an announcement from Mongoose.

Quote from: Moracai;1042698Thanks a bunch for the clarifications Jeff!

Seems like that since I'm sitting on the player side of the table, I don't need to concern myself with most of the things you mentioned. Sad to hear about the cash grab change-for-changes-sake, and I had previously read a bit about the licensing debacle, but thought nothing much of it because of an announcement from Mongoose.

If you are just a player, it should be fine. I usually referee and it made the task damn near impossible.

I can testify some of the rules are indeed unplayable. Vehicles chiefly among these.