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Anyone Familiar with this new samurai game?

Started by Persimmon, July 11, 2024, 04:56:04 PM

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Persimmon

So apparently this is a samurai game, based on Mork Borg, which I've never played or had much interest in.  Anyone seen or played it?

https://www.slightlyrecklessgames.com/ronin

GhostNinja

Looked at the lite version and stopped when I saw this in the credits:

"EDITING/SENSITIVITY READING Sachiko Suzuki"

It's woke.

Ghostninja

BadApple

I have the game, I got it when I was tooling up to start developing my ninja game.

It's a re-flavored Mork Borg and not even a particularly good one.  Nobunaga's Black Castle is a better Japanese flavored Mork Bork if you're willing to work on translating it from Japanese.

Ghostninja is right, there's a whole thing in the full copy admonishing white guys for cultural appropriation.
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Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
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zircher

Thanks for the warnings.  I'll dodge that arrow.
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weirdguy564

Chanbara and Kogarashi are the two Samurai games I recommend. 

Chanbara is traditional D20 D&D rules with armor class, six stats, and spell slots that you prepare in the morning and forget after casting. However, you do get access to two class specific special abilities every 3rd level, pick one, and customize your PC that way. 

Chanbara also has a secondary attack bonus using your other stats vs a second armor class that is also based on lesser used stats.  These are your non-damage based combat options like tripping, disarming, taunting, etc.  This seems to be a way to eliminate useless dump stats. 

Chanbara is supposed to only be humans, but a small optional rule in the back allows for four non-human races.  There are 11 classes. 

Kogarashi uses just 1D6, roll equal or under a stat.  Armor is a saving throw that reduces damage received.  All classes have a list of 20 skills, special moves, and spells that are skill checks to activate.  Again, roll equal or under a 1-4 stat to do so. 

There are 4 or 14 races depending how you separate them.  2 races have 6 variants each.  There are only six classes. 

Again, these two games are what I recommend anybody interested in Japanese themed fantasy. 
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Persimmon

Got it; I'll just stick with my AD&D Oriental Adventures & C&C Codex Sinarum books.

SHARK

Greetings!

Ahh, that is so sad to hear. I have the original Mork Borg book, and it seemed like a normal, Dark Metal RPG with some pretty evocative art, some interesting rules, and overall a pretty awesome "Vibe." I don't recall any proclamations of being Woke. Professor DM did a video on Mork Borg, and recommended it as well.

So, it seems that as the Mork Borg people have grown and prospered, they have increasingly been corrupted by the Woke. Now we hear that the Japanese Mork Borg is Woke. I keep seeing advertisements for a Viking Mork Borg. However, seeing that they are gulping down the fucking Woke jello, I would have been potentially interested in buying more--but definitely not now. They can get fucked!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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BadApple

Some clarification, Shark.  Ronin is NOT published by Free League but by Slightly Reckless Games under an open license.

Free League isn't green but they shouldn't take any guilt that isn't theirs. 
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

SHARK

Quote from: BadApple on July 13, 2024, 06:40:33 PMSome clarification, Shark.  Ronin is NOT published by Free League but by Slightly Reckless Games under an open license.

Free League isn't green but they shouldn't take any guilt that isn't theirs. 

Greetings!

*Laughing* Well, yes, thank you, BadApple! That's good to know. I wasn't aware there were multiple people publishing game stuff for Mork Borg.

So, yeah. Fuck RONIN, then.

Free League is still innocent. Like you said, they aren't on the Green List, so they need to be watched. As my Mork Borg book, yeah. I didn't see anything Woke in it, it is interesting, fun, evocative, and creative. I recommended the book to several friends that I know DM games such as D&D. Mork Borg is certainly interesting and inspiring to look at and read, even if you never play the game. I told several friends of mine, "No, I probably won't run a game of Mork Borg, but for inspiration, ideas, and such, it is a cool book. I'm glad I bought it, and I recommend it as well, even just for that."

I hope that Free League stays out of the Woke cesspool, and resists. They no doubt have some people encouraging them to jump into the Woke cesspool, unfortunately.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Persimmon

Quote from: SHARK on July 13, 2024, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: BadApple on July 13, 2024, 06:40:33 PMSome clarification, Shark.  Ronin is NOT published by Free League but by Slightly Reckless Games under an open license.

Free League isn't green but they shouldn't take any guilt that isn't theirs. 

Greetings!

*Laughing* Well, yes, thank you, BadApple! That's good to know. I wasn't aware there were multiple people publishing game stuff for Mork Borg.

So, yeah. Fuck RONIN, then.

Free League is still innocent. Like you said, they aren't on the Green List, so they need to be watched. As my Mork Borg book, yeah. I didn't see anything Woke in it, it is interesting, fun, evocative, and creative. I recommended the book to several friends that I know DM games such as D&D. Mork Borg is certainly interesting and inspiring to look at and read, even if you never play the game. I told several friends of mine, "No, I probably won't run a game of Mork Borg, but for inspiration, ideas, and such, it is a cool book. I'm glad I bought it, and I recommend it as well, even just for that."

I hope that Free League stays out of the Woke cesspool, and resists. They no doubt have some people encouraging them to jump into the Woke cesspool, unfortunately.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK



Free League definitely leans left and stay off their forums for sure, but there are worse offenders out there. 
That Norse game being advertised is by the same people who made this Ronin game.  Not sure if there's a sensitivity reader this time.

dungeonmonkey

The final day of the kickstarter for Ronin, they sent an update that included the following text:

"At Slightly Reckless Games, we are committed to making Rōnin an inclusive game for everyone. We firmly believe in creating a safe and welcoming space for all players. Our game will not include or tolerate homophobia, racism, transphobia, or sexism. We believe in the power of diversity and inclusivity, and we're dedicated to ensuring Rōnin reflects these values."

This message was accompanied by a screen shot from the book reading:

"Sexists, Racists, Homophobes and Transphobes, put this down and FUCK OFF."

This message wasn't provoked by anything that happened in the kickstarter or by anything else as near as I can tell.

Venka

Quote from: dungeonmonkey on July 14, 2024, 05:41:41 PMThe final day of the kickstarter for Ronin, they sent an update that included the following text:

"At Slightly Reckless Games, we are committed to making Rōnin an inclusive game for everyone. We firmly believe in creating a safe and welcoming space for all players. Our game will not include or tolerate homophobia, racism, transphobia, or sexism. We believe in the power of diversity and inclusivity, and we're dedicated to ensuring Rōnin reflects these values."

This message was accompanied by a screen shot from the book reading:

"Sexists, Racists, Homophobes and Transphobes, put this down and FUCK OFF."

This message wasn't provoked by anything that happened in the kickstarter or by anything else as near as I can tell.

So clearly they had been waiting to do that- their own internal hatred sitting there brewing- but they had the business sense to wait until all the orders were in.
It's really surprising, even after all this time, to see how this mind virus works.

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Quote from: dungeonmonkey on July 14, 2024, 05:41:41 PM"Sexists, Racists, Homophobes and Transphobes, put this down and FUCK OFF."


Signal that virtue! lool

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weirdguy564

So, if I make a historically accurate Sengoku era setting with patrilineal families and nobility, or even forbade female samurai, then I'm a bad person instead of correct to the setting.

Half the fun is working with real restrictions.  Things like nobody but Samurai can openly carry weapons, especially the Daisho set (Katana + Wakizashi). 

Or, women can't be warriors, normally.  Exceptions do exist, but those women are VERY noticeable exceptions.

There is nothing wrong with having a game setting like this. 
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Lurker

Quote from: weirdguy564 on July 15, 2024, 09:47:54 PMSo, if I make a historically accurate Sengoku era setting with patrilineal families and nobility, or even forbade female samurai, then I'm a bad person instead of correct to the setting.

Half the fun is working with real restrictions.  Things like nobody but Samurai can openly carry weapons, especially the Daisho set (Katana + Wakizashi). 

Or, women can't be warriors, normally.  Exceptions do exist, but those women are VERY noticeable exceptions.

There is nothing wrong with having a game setting like this. 

Completely agree with you on that !

I am a person of faith and have a very specific moral compas. However, there are locations and eras that were dominated by things that are counter or abhorrent to that faith and morality . Plus, like CoC / DG there is literary settings and assumptions that are completely against my faith and morals. However, They all make AMAZING game settings and I have had a blast playing or running games in those settings.

However, to those company types and games, ALL game setting has to adhere to their morality and if it doesn't it has to be changed to something that does, and if you push back you are evil ...