Well I picked up the runequest corebook, the Lankhmar book, the Hawkmoon and Granbretan books as well as the Elric book.  All I can say is I think that Runequest will be my new D&D.  Not going to get into bashing D&D here, but I wil say what I like about Runequest.

1. It's OGL/has a SRD, that means that the things I don't have (Runequest Companion and Monsters) I can get for free.

2. Signs and Portents is free...so I have a digital support magazine that I get for free.

3. Swords and Sorcery...IMHO with Conan, Lankhmar, Elric, Hawkmoon, etc. Mongoose is fast becoming the gaming company for real S&S feel rpg's.  This is the type of fantasy I like.

4. Players Update...This fixed most of the problems I had with combat and skills for Runequest and it's a free download.

5. Same level of tactical play as D&D but IMHO simpler to understand.

6. Character's have alot of design options, but character creation is still pretty simple and quick.

Could think of more but that's enough for now.  Just wondering if anyone else is feelin Mongoose's Runequest?

lovin' it here.  all i have is the main book and the companion so far.  

even with point 1., i wish i could convince my group to give it a try.  too many things going on right now, tho.  

S & P is nice.  can't beat the price, and the fact that it's a pdf formatted to fit the screen is an amazing bonus.  don't see much of that.

planning on picking up MRQ slaine for my swords & sorcery fix.  one guy in my group is a huge elric-head, so i'll end up getting that too.  he had stormbringer 4 or 5 and a bunch of supplements, but they got stolen a few years ago.  :mad:   maybe once i show him the "current" system i can bring him on board :raise:

Not me. I owned the game for a day before trading it off to a friend. It had potential, but it was a very lifeless read.

Quote from: Jason CoplenNot me. I owned the game for a day before trading it off to a friend. It had potential, but it was a very lifeless read.

Were the rules lacking, or was it just lacking in overall writing "style"? I plan on buying it, so I'd like to know what I'm getting into. :confused:

I glanced at the SRD.  It was a sloppy, unreadable mess.  I shrugged, said something along the lines of "Mongoose strikes again", and went on my way.

Quote from: J ArcaneI glanced at the SRD.  It was a sloppy, unreadable mess.

Quote from: MRQ SRDMaking the Attack

An attack is made by simply rolling D100 and comparing it to the character’s skill in the weapon he is using.

If a character rolls equal to or lower than his Weapon skill, he has hit his target.

If a character rolls greater than his Weapon skill, he has missed his target.

Dodge

Trigger Event: A successful ranged or close combat attack being made against the character.

Restrictions: Helpless characters may not dodge.

Penalties: A mounted character suffers a -30% penalty to his Dodge Skill. If a character has his back to a wall, cliff, more enemies or is otherwise impeded from freely dodging in any direction, he will suffer a -20% penalty to his Dodge Skill.

A dodge opposes the attacker’s Weapon skill to the target’s Dodge Skill in a roll similar to an opposed skill test. The attacking and defending players each roll D100 and compare their results on the Dodge table.

A sloppy, unreadable mess? As the above random quotes show, the SRD is a good example of concise technical writing. Dry, yes. But very clear and well-organised. Too bad that Mongoose messed it up when they expanded it into the actual rule book, which was indeed badly written.

That last line is extremely confusing to me, but it may be due to brain damage from knowing RQ2/3 and Elric.

It seems to say that if someone succeeds on an attack roll against me, I can dodge, forcing the other character to roll again and cross index that with the result of a roll on my Dodge skill. Is that right?

I see from the Player's Guide PDF that this is NOT what was intended. Instead, Dodge is handled pretty much the same way that defense rolls were also handled in RQ/Elric. So yes, I'd say that's some pretty lousy writing right there.

Don't know about the rest of the rules, though. I'm interested in the system, but the way it's being published across multiple thin books turns me off; I may eventually look for it used, or wait for it to show up in the thicker editions that I've heard are planned now that Mongoose has its own printing press. Meantime I'm gathering old Chaosium stuff and waiting for the new Chaosium BRP.

Quote from: Elliot WilenI see from the Player's Guide PDF that this is NOT what was intended. Instead, Dodge is handled pretty much the same way that defense rolls were also handled in RQ/Elric. So yes, I'd say that's some pretty lousy writing right there.

Don't know about the rest of the rules, though. I'm interested in the system, but the way it's being published across multiple thin books turns me off; I may eventually look for it used, or wait for it to show up in the thicker editions that I've heard are planned now that Mongoose has its own printing press. Meantime I'm gathering old Chaosium stuff and waiting for the new Chaosium BRP.

Well right now I only have the corebook and the SRD...but Mongoose is publishing a deluxe edition that will be the corebook, companion and monsters in one book for $39.95.  It should be out this week or next and this is definitely the route I will be going as opposed to the three seperate books.  In the meantime the Elric and Hawkmoon books are total standalone games and Lankhmar only requires the first book to use.

Quote from: J ArcaneI glanced at the SRD.  It was a sloppy, unreadable mess.  I shrugged, said something along the lines of "Mongoose strikes again", and went on my way.

Not sure exactly what you mean as I haven't really had any problems with the SRD along with just the corebook.  What types of things were you talking about?

Hee hee.  He cherrypicks out of it to try and find a clear example, and still gets a mess.

The MRQ SRD reads like a hastily scrawled set of notes for an unfinished system.  I tried and failed to make sense of even the chargen section, and basically gave up on it.  The fact that the formatting was completely out of whack didn't help either.

Quote from: J ArcaneHee hee.  He cherrypicks out of it to try and find a clear example, and still gets a mess.

The MRQ SRD reads like a hastily scrawled set of notes for an unfinished system.  I tried and failed to make sense of even the chargen section, and basically gave up on it.  The fact that the formatting was completely out of whack didn't help either.

You know there isn't a character generation system in the SRD...you know just like there isn't one in the 3.5 SRD(you have to actually purchase the book to get them).  I think what you wanted was the complete game for free, and that's not what the SRD is actually for.

Quote from: J ArcaneI tried and failed to make sense of even the chargen section, and basically gave up on it.  The fact that the formatting was completely out of whack didn't help either.

I was able to generate characters with no problem. And in fact ran some sample combats too, though I haven't played a session of MRQ. I believe that the SRD speaks for itself  - even the above Dodge example - but if you find it unclear, that's too bad. Weird, but the internet is always stretching my perceptions of human weirdness.

Quote from: Ghost_FaceYou know there isn't a character generation system in the SRD...you know just like there isn't one in the 3.5 SRD(you have to actually purchase the book to get them).  I think what you wanted was the complete game for free, and that's not what the SRD is actually for.

I didn't have the same problem with either the 3.5 or the Modern SRD.

I found the corebook bland and uninspiring...  I have the Avalon Hill version in the cream-colored box, and in contrast I found that to be very inspiring.

There was nothing about MRQ that jumped out and said "PLAY ME!" to me.

-O