I bought RQ6 some weeks back and seeing as I already play Legend/Elric regularly, it wasn't hard to get my head around it.
However I haven't actaally tried out playing RQ6 yet.
Has anyone had a go?
Opinions?
what's it like compared to Legend/MRQ2?
Quote from: danskmacabre;567900I bought RQ6 some weeks back and seeing as I already play Legend/Elric regularly, it wasn't hard to get my head around it.
However I haven't actaally tried out playing RQ6 yet.
Has anyone had a go?
Opinions?
what's it like compared to Legend/MRQ2?
Well I was a playtester (as I was for MRQ2) so yes but clearly my opinions aren't neutral. I've also just finished a little 3-part urban s&s scenario using RQ6 for my playgroup while trying to free up some time to finish my 4 year old Gloranthan campaign.
Basically it plays the same as Legend most of the time only more polished. There aren't so many wasted combat manoeuvres (special effects SE) and even more so than Legend, combat is often decided by choice of SE meaning that the opponent usually surrenders before you kill them. Ultimately everything knits together much better. Getting rid of fiddly modifiers helps keep the game about imagination rather than trying to eek a +5% here and a +5% there.
I really like the way that theism (divine magic) finally feels believable and atmospheric at the same time.
Ultimately what it feels like is a case of "ahh so that's what they were trying to do with MRQ2." Obviously I don't agree with everything but those are down to personal preference. Looking at the two systems, I don't think there's anything I would use in Legend in preference to RQ6. Not that there's anything wrong with Legend, just that RQ6 to my eyes does everything just a little bit better.
Chaosium RQ2 - Sean Connery (the original and for some the best)
Chaosium RQ3 - Roger Moore (hasn't aged well but popular at the time)
RQ AiG - tried to sign up Pierce Brosnan but lawyers got involved
Mongoose RQ - George Lazenby (flawed but not without merit)
MRQ2 - Pierce Brosnan (nice looks but didn't sell well)
Legend - Timothy Dalton (with the serial numbers filed off)
RQ6 - Daniel Craig (big budget brutality, feels more Bond than Bond.)
Thanks for the views, funny analogies! :D
Anyway, my gaming group are going to try it out next week, just some test combats and stuff. We usually play Legend/Elric.
I'll post opinions next week.
Quote from: deleriad;567943MRQ2 - Pierce Brosnan (nice looks but didn't sell well)
Daniel Craig definitely kicks ass as Bond, but the Pierce Brosnan era had promise with Goldeneye, but it become more over the top Roger Moore-era as the movies went on. Still, Brosnan had one of the best Bond scenes in The World is Not Enough, when, after he frees M and kills Electra, he stops to kiss the dead Electra before he chases the terrorist guy, as M looks on almost in horror as she gets a glimpse at what Bond really is.
Sorry, but I haven't run RQ6 yet. :D
Quote from: deleriad;567943MRQ2 - Pierce Brosnan (nice looks but didn't sell well)
RQ6 - Daniel Craig (big budget brutality, feels more Bond than Bond.)
God, I hope not. Brosnan was one of the best Bonds ever in my book (and Die Another Day maybe the best recent Bond flick); I think Craig's Bond is too serious, too somber, too fucking
complex. I like my 007 suave, cocksure and witty. Then again I
am a fan of Roger Moore's take on 007.
Quote from: danskmacabre;567900Has anyone had a go?
Opinions?
I'm listed as a 'playtester' for RQ6, but I haven't played the 'completed' version of RQ6 yet. I was in Loz's MRQII 'Elric' campaign last year, and he introduced some RQ6 elements into the game towards the end, but that's about it.
However, I will be playing in a RQ6 game, also run by Loz (Lawrence Whitaker), in 8 days. Quite looking forward to it!
Quote from: danskmacabre;567900what's it like compared to Legend/MRQ2?
I would agree with deleriad that RQ6 seems to do everything somewhat better than Legend/MRQII.
Nice Youtube preview by Loz here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0MxSk4gEAU&feature=youtu.be).
Quote from: CRKrueger;568070Nice Youtube preview by Loz here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0MxSk4gEAU&feature=youtu.be).
Note the strong resemblance to Daniel Craig...
Quote from: deleriad;567943Chaosium RQ3 - Roger Moore (hasn't aged well but popular at the time)
I hate you so much :D
Quote from: The Butcher;567993Brosnan was one of the best Bonds ever in my book (and Die Another Day maybe the best recent Bond flick);
Man what.
Quote from: Imperator;568220Man what.
It's not Bond if the actor's not overdoing it.
And Die Another Day is a nearly flawless execution of the Bond formula. Madman? Check. Doomsday device? Check. Memorable henchman? Check. Bond girl(s), one of whom turns out to be evil? Check. Exotic locations? Check. Scientifically improbable high-tech plot devices? Check. Gadgets? Check.
Then along comes Daniel Craig, playing a taciturn and unsubtle British agent who happens to be called James Bond, and goes for a deep psychological portrait of an angst-ridden man with a checkered past... not a bad movie
per se, but certainly not what I expect from my Bond flicks. It felt more like a British-accented Jason Bourne clone, than a Bond flick.
Oh God, I'm a Bond grognard. :o
Quote from: The Butcher;568226It's not Bond if the actor's not overdoing it.
And Die Another Day is a nearly flawless execution of the Bond formula. Madman? Check. Doomsday device? Check. Memorable henchman? Check. Bond girl(s), one of whom turns out to be evil? Check. Exotic locations? Check. Scientifically improbable high-tech plot devices? Check. Gadgets? Check.
Then along comes Daniel Craig, playing a taciturn and unsubtle British agent who happens to be called James Bond, and goes for a deep psychological portrait of an angst-ridden man with a checkered past... not a bad movie per se, but certainly not what I expect from my Bond flicks. It felt more like a British-accented Jason Bourne clone, than a Bond flick.
Oh God, I'm a Bond grognard. :o
Shame on you AND YOUR COW.
Sorry, I don't do shame. Not online anyway. Certainly not on theRPGsite. :D
On a related note, Lawrence "Loz" Whitaker will be stopping by for a Q&A about RuneQuest 6e in #rpgnet IRC chat on Monday. (See the schedule link in my sig.)
Quote from: CRKrueger;568070Nice Youtube preview by Loz here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0MxSk4gEAU&feature=youtu.be).
That is a very nice presentation of the physical book and the rules.
Any chance we get to see some actual play on YouTube? I'm particularly interested in an example of combat as it is being run by the authors of the game.
Quote from: Benoist;568266That is a very nice presentation of the physical book and the rules.
Any chance we get to see some actual play on YouTube? I'm particularly interested in an example of combat as it is being run by the authors of the game.
Thank you! Glad it didn't put you off... ;-)
A few people have asked about a practical demonstration video, so I'll give it some thought. I guess one way of doing it would be to show practical applications of the rules, such as combat and magic, in short 'easy to grasp' nuggets.
I'll discuss it with Pete and we'll give some though to moving it forward.
Quote from: Loz;568272Thank you! Glad it didn't put you off... ;-)
A few people have asked about a practical demonstration video, so I'll give it some thought. I guess one way of doing it would be to show practical applications of the rules, such as combat and magic, in short 'easy to grasp' nuggets.
I'll discuss it with Pete and we'll give some though to moving it forward.
Excellent. I hope I'm not coming off as too abrasive when I criticize the game you worked on, Lawrence. I'm just such a RQ3 grognard I look at the new games and really try to determine what they'd add to my game table, whether they'd be a positive or a negative compared to my go-to version of the game.
The fact I remain open to the discussion and keep asking questions should tell you how I feel about it. I recognize a lot of good thought went into it. My main worry at this point, to be honest, is that I play mostly with people who don't want to worry about the rules' intricacies or have a foot-long checklist of stuff to look at every round to just do what they want to do with their characters.
If the player has to know from the inside out how combat works before being able to play, it's not going to do it for me. I worry there's just too much "granularity" to RQ6's rules, and/or mechanical steps in combat, in particular, if you see what I mean.
QuoteI worry there's just too much "granularity" to RQ6's rules, and/or mechanical steps in combat, in particular, if you see what I mean.
I don't think there is too much granularity. It might
appear that way, because we've taken the time to cover as many eventualities as possible and explain how to handle them, but when played, combat is very quick to resolve.
Roll to hit
Roll to defend
Hit gets through? Calculate damage and reduce if there was a successful defend attempt, and according to armour.
Generate a Special Effect? Apply it.
Note effects.
Rinse and repeat.
All the mechanics function to an underlying set of very similar principles which, once grokked, are easy to understand an apply according in the future. So although it looks like a lot of crunch, in play, it does become background.
Similarly, I find the game too granular, but I think I'll buy it in any case 'cos I like collecting RPG books.
What I really want to know is what creature is that on the sofa? You can just see it moving occasionally down by your right leg. I suspect it's a cat's tail, but it may be more sinister than that....
Displacer Beast no doubt! i hear they often befriend unwitting families in canadian communities then mooch off them for the usual cat type things, failing that probably a Blink dog :)
Quote from: Stainless;568284Similarly, I find the game too granular, but I think I'll buy it in any case 'cos I like collecting RPG books.
What I really want to know is what creature is that on the sofa? You can just see it moving occasionally down by your right leg. I suspect it's a cat's tail, but it may be more sinister than that....
Its a dog. We have several. Basenjis to be precise...