Quote from: blackstone on January 31, 2025, 07:49:40 AMIt does disprove your point. If we're going on the assumption that someone already played D&D and wanted to look for an alternative, ANYONE with enough smarts can go on the internet and do a Google search.

When was that an assumption of my position? You're arguing against points I never made.

To be clear, the original argument made was that because other systems have better quality than D&D, they should be more popular. My counterpoint is that, like McDonalds, quality is only a factor if the product is no longer "good enough" and before that ease of access and consistency of product (i.e. you can find it anywhere and it'll be basically the same experience wherever you do find it) are often more important than quality in making something popular.

Your assumptions already prove my case if "someone already played D&D" is exactly why D&D is more popular. You're starting from the position that everyone starts with D&D (not entirely true, but the vast majority do) which proves my point; D&D's quality is "good enough" so the ease of access to it and the general consistency of experience keep it popular enough that only a fraction of people even bother to look for anything else.

Quote from: blackstone on January 31, 2025, 07:49:40 AMPlus, it's not a matter of me liking the prevalence of D&D or not. I don't care. There are alternatives, and some people will gravitate towards those alternatives. Again, the fact they're available is a good thing.

And we have no disagreement here at all. Alternatives are good and, if you're actually looking for them, easy enough to find.

Apparently you're arguing against some imaginary troll version of me that was saying "Heh, Heh? Dee-un-Dee BESTEST EVAH!!! ALL OTHERS SUCK!!!"

Quote from: blackstone on January 31, 2025, 07:49:40 AMSo I'm calling out your bullshit saying "it's not that easy". I proved that it is by a simple web search.

Again with the voices in your head saying things I never said.

All I said was "D&D is easier to find than other systems."

That is objectively true. That doesn't mean the others are hard to find. Just that D&D is easier still.

Quote from: blackstone on January 31, 2025, 07:49:40 AMGood day, sir.

I can only presume this is directed at your imaginary troll of me, since virtually nothing you stated was actually directed at anything I said.

But, good day, all the same as well.

Fine. Whatever. You win. Let's move on...

(sigh)

I'm sorry I even got involved with this conversation. I'm much better at discussion with a real person in front of me than with a keyboard and screen.

Ultimately, it really doesn't matter what anyone says. We're all yelling into the void our opinions, hoping desperately someone will validate anything we say.