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An Interview with Ron Edwards

Started by joewolz, May 25, 2007, 05:19:18 PM

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Dr Rotwang!

#1
May 25, 2007, 10:46:43 PM
I interviewed Ron Edwards for my very, very, very failed gaming documentary a few years ago.

I've never said this before because I don't like being negative, but here it is: he scared me.  He bothered me.  He freaked me out.  He said things about gaming in a a way that unsettled me.  My wife was freaked out, too.

Then, he tried to make me buy one of his games, under the pretense that, since he'd given of my time, I should give of my pocket.

I did not.
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brettmb2

#2
May 25, 2007, 11:40:20 PM
You know, I really liked a lot of the things that he said. He makes a lot of sense and came across less pretentious than he writes. Then he continued speaking, and I found myself cringing. He seems to think that there is only one set of play styles -- those he designates.

He generally seems like a nice guy to hang out with... until you start getting into a serious conversation ;)
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Pierce Inverarity

#3
May 25, 2007, 11:40:26 PM
Doc: Wow.

I haven't watched the interview Joe linked to, and I'm not going to. Because I did watch a section of an interview Edwards did with Settembrini. And that was enough to freak ME out, merely from watching.

Intense bordering on creepy. The former is good (I know a lot of artists), the latter not so much.
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#4
May 26, 2007, 12:02:06 AM
In what way did he freak you and your wife out, Doc? I'm a dial-up drongo so can't see these interviews for myself.
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Abyssal Maw

#5
May 26, 2007, 12:15:41 AM
Oh Joe Wolz. You troublemaker.

Like piGames, I thought it started out reasonable and then got weird. I think (Ron's) assesment of the original Vampire appeal (and other things) is extremely accurate. But then bizzarity! strikes!

I have to give props to the interviewer at first because he actually asks him the questions that most people want answered. But then he kinda wusses.

I liked the part when Ron goes "Has D&D Ever made anyone any money?!!"
and the interviewer is like "uhm..uhh.. uhh.. no? is the answer no?"

I swear, it's like Jim Jones mockumentary.

I have a couple of stories that are uniquely my own dating back to the Gaming Outpost days but I think I'm saving them for a rainy day.
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Spike

#6
May 26, 2007, 01:08:01 AM
Sweet Jeebus this thing is long.

Closed if after an hour+...
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For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

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Christmas Ape

#7
May 26, 2007, 04:19:11 AM
Listening now. Initial thoughts:

1) That's the worst theme song in history.
2) The awkward pause between "I haven't gotten to look at Elfs" and when he starts again totally feels like "So....no bonus copy for the interviewer, huh?".

More as we go forward.

EDIT: :teehee: "Gothers".

EDIT EDIT: Wow. Worst defense of Brain Damage ever.
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#8
May 26, 2007, 05:05:10 AM
Wow, even some of the comments scare me. I guess this is how a Catholic feels when Mormons come around ;)
 

Dr Rotwang!

#9
May 26, 2007, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: JimBobOzIn what way did he freak you and your wife out, Doc? I'm a dial-up drongo so can't see these interviews for myself.
Basically, he had this very, very intense look in his eye as he described how gamers fetishize their hobby, taking it into the privacy of their homes and pretending that it's some kind of weird secret no-one should know about.  He may be right, but thatdoesn't make him not-creepy.  His demeanor was just...unsettling.

I have the video, but not the audio.  I bought the wrong type of microphone.  I was VERY mad about that.
Dr Rotwang!
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Blue Devil

#10
May 26, 2007, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!I interviewed Ron Edwards for my very, very, very failed gaming documentary a few years ago.

I've never said this before because I don't like being negative, but here it is: he scared me.  He bothered me.  He freaked me out.  He said things about gaming in a a way that unsettled me.  My wife was freaked out, too.

Then, he tried to make me buy one of his games, under the pretense that, since he'd given of my time, I should give of my pocket.

I did not.

The problem I have is that Ron Edward's exteme views give other indie designers a bad name.

They get lumped in with Ron because they too create Indie Games.

I really think the best thing that could happen to Indie Games is to not have Ron Edwards involved.

David R

#11
May 26, 2007, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: Blue DevilI really think the best thing that could happen to Indie Games is to not have Ron Edwards involved.

I don't think he's involved in Indie games...well at least not those that don't fit into his defintion of Indie, he's more of Forge games....right?.

I mean Clash, Hinterwelt, Marco etc are indie designers and they don't have a bad rep or are connected with Ron or the Forge in any way.

Regards,
David R

Blue Devil

#12
May 26, 2007, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: David RI don't think he's involved in Indie games...well at least not those that don't fit into his defintion of Indie, he's more of Forge games....right?.

As I have been told, Indie Games are "Creator owned and published games" and I thought a par of The Forge was working to push indie games

Quote from: David RI mean Clash, Hinterwelt, Marco etc are indie designers and they don't have a bad rep or are connected with Ron or the Forge in any way.

Regards,
David R

This could be very true, we don't know what ever game is thinking so we can't be sure there are people who out there who connect them to The Forge (As incorrect as that is).

I will say, for the record I think Clash, Hinterwelt and Marco are great people and make quality games.

Blue Devil

#13
May 26, 2007, 10:00:34 AM
As I continue to listen to this podcast I have to say:

"Ron Edwards is Nuts"

David R

#14
May 26, 2007, 10:10:24 AM
Quote from: Blue DevilAs I have been told, Indie Games are "Creator owned and published games" and I thought a par of The Forge was working to push indie games

Well I'm unsure of the definition of Indie or at least the way how Ron defines Indie, but does the Forge push all Indie games? I'm pretty sure he does not push the game/system JimBob created and I'm 100% sure he's not going to push FTA....but since there are only a few independent designers I know of, I'll leave it at that.

Regards,
David R
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