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Alternate Fighter Builds

Started by Zachary The First, October 10, 2006, 03:57:52 PM

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fonkaygarry

Quote from: Mcrownever heard of them, they must be anime.:(

Yes, they are.
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My jiujitsu is no match for sharks, ninjas with uzis, and hot lava. Somehow I persist. -Fat Cat

"I do believe; help my unbelief!" -Mark 9:24

Mcrow

Quote from: fonkaygarryYes, they are.

then I take that as an insult!:D

Darro is no little girl riding a fluffy dog.;)

fonkaygarry

Quote from: SosthenesReally? Conan's sword is rather realistic, especially considering that Schwarzenegger _could_ use something bigger. You'd have to use a different fight choreography, but it wouldn't look that odd in his hands. Conan's style was a little to asian, but certainly more realistic than a pirate fencing with a cutlass...

I know less than nothing about swordfighting (I read a couple books on iajutsu as a kid, but you know what that's worth) so I bow to your knowledge on the matter. :)
teamchimp: I'm doing problem sets concerning inbreeding and effective population size.....I absolutely know this will get me the hot bitches.

My jiujitsu is no match for sharks, ninjas with uzis, and hot lava. Somehow I persist. -Fat Cat

"I do believe; help my unbelief!" -Mark 9:24

Sosthenes

Quote from: fonkaygarryI know less than nothing about swordfighting (I read a couple books on iajutsu as a kid, but you know what that's worth) so I bow to your knowledge on the matter. :)

I've got a few books, but will run screaming if someone mentions Oakeshott. But I _do_ know the Conan movie and couldn't remember any unreasonably big weapons. Schwarzenegger is basically using Katana techniques. Don't know whether they're good or realistic, but it's the usual samurai posing ;)
There was some big stuff in "Conan the Destroyer". But one has to remember, that there never actually was a second part. Nanananana, can't hear you.

But now that you've mentioned it, I've still got some Ninja books from the 80s. Dual-wielding kyoketsu-shogei drow?
 

Ian Absentia

As I recall from my old days of playing Tunnels & Trolls, the baton -- a simple stick or club -- was a perfectly effective weapon, could be used single-handedly, and not forbidden for use by wizards.  So I had a wizard running about with twin batons, using them like an escrima fighter whenever his magical power ran low.

!i!

Settembrini

QuoteI thought Gogo's fighting style from Kill Bill was pretty damn amusing - cute li'l psycho schoolgirl with a huge ball and chain. Imagine what an ogre could do with that kind of weapon!

Pah! CopyCat bullshit!

Fear my  6/10 Fighter/Master of the Flying Guillotine!

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fonkaygarry

But does he look good in a schoolgirl outfit?

What movie is that from?  I need to watch more old kungfu flicks.
teamchimp: I'm doing problem sets concerning inbreeding and effective population size.....I absolutely know this will get me the hot bitches.

My jiujitsu is no match for sharks, ninjas with uzis, and hot lava. Somehow I persist. -Fat Cat

"I do believe; help my unbelief!" -Mark 9:24

Settembrini

If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

John Morrow

Quote from: Zachary The FirstSo, quite often in gaming, we see the most popular fighter builds being humans with longswords/greatswords or dwarves with greataxes.  What are some of the more unorthodox fighter you've made/seen, and how well did they work?

D&D Human Spiked Chain Fighter with a Dexterity and Intelligence of at least 13 and a decent Strength:

Level 1: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain), Combat Exertise, Dodge
Level 2: Improved Disarm
Level 3: Combat Reflexes
Level 4: Mobility
Level 6: Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack

That's attacking 24 squares in one round with that Whirlwind Attack (the Spiked Chain is a reach weapon that can also attack adjacent squares) and Spring Attack and Mobility with a reach weapon.

I got a character built like this up to 6th level and then pretty much stopped playing him (long story) so I never got to see the Whirlwind Attack in action.  I did get to use the Improved Disarm and Combat Reflexes a bit and it's pretty effective to be able to disarm so effectively with a reach weapon.
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fonkaygarry

I read about that somewhere.  Wasn't that the build that "broke" the feat system?

Reminds me of that guy who was able to set up an infinite flurry attack in Exalted, except better.  I can actually see some ancient warrior-type putting together a martial art like this.
teamchimp: I'm doing problem sets concerning inbreeding and effective population size.....I absolutely know this will get me the hot bitches.

My jiujitsu is no match for sharks, ninjas with uzis, and hot lava. Somehow I persist. -Fat Cat

"I do believe; help my unbelief!" -Mark 9:24

beejazz

Quote from: John MorrowD&D Human Spiked Chain Fighter with a Dexterity and Intelligence of at least 13 and a decent Strength:

Level 1: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain), Combat Exertise, Dodge
Level 2: Improved Disarm
Level 3: Combat Reflexes
Level 4: Mobility
Level 6: Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack

That's attacking 24 squares in one round with that Whirlwind Attack (the Spiked Chain is a reach weapon that can also attack adjacent squares) and Spring Attack and Mobility with a reach weapon.

I got a character built like this up to 6th level and then pretty much stopped playing him (long story) so I never got to see the Whirlwind Attack in action.  I did get to use the Improved Disarm and Combat Reflexes a bit and it's pretty effective to be able to disarm so effectively with a reach weapon.
Whirlwind attack got updated in the move to 3.5. Everyone within five feet instead of everyone within reach. So only 8 opponents. Though that's still pretty impressive with a 2d4 weapon.

John Morrow

Quote from: fonkaygarryI read about that somewhere.  Wasn't that the build that "broke" the feat system?

I don't know.  I came up with that particular combination myself, in a fit of min-maxing.  It's a fairly obvious build, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are lots of other similar fighter builds out there.  In fact, it's so obvious I would argue that it was intentional.
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John Morrow

Quote from: beejazzWhirlwind attack got updated in the move to 3.5. Everyone within five feet instead of everyone within reach. So only 8 opponents. Though that's still pretty impressive with a 2d4 weapon.

The 3.5 PHB that I have and the online d20SRD that I use both say:

"When you use the full attack action, you can give up your regular attacks and instead make one melee attack at your full base attack bonus against each opponent within reach."

Added: As a two-handed weapon, it also get's 1.5 times strength bonus.  The one downside seems to be that it's a piercing weapon.

Added: Also, as I've read the rules, "An attack of opportunity is a single melee attack" and Disarm reads, "As a melee attack, you may attempt to disarm your opponent."  That means that as an opponent moves from 10 feet to 5 feet and provokes an attack of opportunity, you can use that attack to disarm them, leaving them standing within reach without a weapon.
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Sosthenes

Well, if you want to munchkinize, do it properly. A spiked chain fighter in D&D 3.5 without Improved Trip isn't worth his money. ;)
Power Attack should be taken quite early, too.

Have I complained enough about the superfluous punk elements in third edition? I have? Then get off my lawn!
 

fonkaygarry

What was your backup strategy for CQB (tunnel fighting and such?)

I would love to run a fighter like that.  I can imagine him building a stronghold strictly so he could found a school of chain fighting.

Quote from: SosthenesHave I complained enough about the superfluous punk elements in third edition?

No.
teamchimp: I'm doing problem sets concerning inbreeding and effective population size.....I absolutely know this will get me the hot bitches.

My jiujitsu is no match for sharks, ninjas with uzis, and hot lava. Somehow I persist. -Fat Cat

"I do believe; help my unbelief!" -Mark 9:24