All My Favorite RPGs Are Out Of Print

Caesar Slaad · April 28, 2007, 02:02:43 PM

The two best iterations of Traveller -- MegaTraveller and T20 -- are both out of print. Fortunately, you can get both electronically (though the electronic MT is a scan so a little annoying.)

DC Heroes (mayfair, not the d6 piece of crap) is still the best Supers game by me, alas long gone.

Fortunately, my fave fantasy and espionage games are still steaming along.

Halfjack · April 28, 2007, 02:08:49 PM

Any game that's my favourite, I own, so I don't really care if it's in print or not.

Now that whole "T20 is the best Traveller" statement is a fight waiting to happen. I have a copy you can have if you need an extra.

Pierce Inverarity · April 28, 2007, 02:12:52 PM

Quote from: jrientsOne of the reasons I play 3.5 is so that I don't feel like a relic. Most of my favorite games were out of print before your favorites were published. Still, I try to do some one shots and con events with older games.

I'm in the same boat, but isn't the solution simply to pitch the thing to your regular group? But that is MY problem... I don't have the time to GM any more, so I'm reduced to saying, "Um, would somebody care to run Privateers & Gentlemen for me?"

Aos · April 28, 2007, 02:53:55 PM

I've never had any problem getting people to play whatever game I want to run (excepting supers stuff, which people have to have a definite taste for)not since the early days, anyway. I don't usually ask, though, i just plunk it down and say, "Hey check this out, it's what we're playing." But if it's a dud, I always pull it quick.

Caesar Slaad · April 28, 2007, 02:56:30 PM

Quote from: HalfjackNow that whole "T20 is the best Traveller" statement is a fight waiting to happen. I have a copy you can have if you need an extra.

Rather than get in a fight (it's all about opinions, neh), I'd gladly take you up on your offer.

Need me to pay shipping, of if you happen to know Jeff Ranger AKA Teflon Billy, who lives in your neck of the woods, I could possibly persuade him to bring it with him to GenCon.

J Arcane · April 28, 2007, 03:10:08 PM

Quote from: HalfjackAny game that's my favourite, I own, so I don't really care if it's in print or not.

Now that whole "T20 is the best Traveller" statement is a fight waiting to happen. I have a copy you can have if you need an extra.

Heh, uh, what about sending that copy to someone for whom it wouldn't be an extra?

RedFox · April 28, 2007, 03:11:25 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneHeh, uh, what about sending that copy to someone for whom it wouldn't be an extra?

Yeah. For example, I've never played Traveller.

Just sayin'.

Halfjack · April 28, 2007, 03:14:41 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneHeh, uh, what about sending that copy to someone for whom it wouldn't be an extra?

I prefer to see every copy of T20 in one place where we can keep an eye on it.

But if you guys want to mud wrestle over it, go nuts.

Halfjack · April 28, 2007, 03:16:37 PM

Quote from: RedFoxYeah. For example, I've never played Traveller.

Just sayin'.

If you're serious, I'll be serious and suggest that T20 would be an inferior place to start with Traveller. With so many wildly divergent versions, obviously any preference at all is a potential firefight starter, but I'd head closer to the roots for a first impression.

Sosthenes · April 28, 2007, 03:25:29 PM

I've only played T:NE. Some people think that's worse than not playing at all.

Christmas Ape · April 28, 2007, 03:38:58 PM

My intention for Traveller is to snap up all the Collector's Editions (all the original black books, bound by category into one tome each...well, two for Aliens) on FRPGames at once, the week after I convince my group to play a Traveller game.

But then, I have a general aversion to handling guns with d20. Just a twitch of mine, man. Others differ. Plus, I can't make heads or tales of this Megatraveller (I hear badly edited?), New Era (virus thing? Like the Jamie Lee Curtis movie?), 2300AD horseshit, so I'm going straight to the source.

jrients · April 28, 2007, 03:44:47 PM

Quote from: SosthenesI've only played T:NE. Some people think that's worse than not playing at all.

Some people are idiots. At its heart, Traveller is about nothing more than zipping around space getting into trouble.

Caesar Slaad · April 28, 2007, 03:46:27 PM

Quote from: jrientsSome people are idiots. At its heart, Traveller is about nothing more than zipping around space getting into trouble.

Whereas TNE is about establishing a fascist pocket empire.

Halfjack · April 28, 2007, 03:48:52 PM

Quote from: Christmas ApeMy intention for Traveller is to snap up all the Collector's Editions (all the original black books, bound by category into one tome each...well, two for Aliens) on FRPGames at once, the week after I convince my group to play a Traveller game.

But then, I have a general aversion to handling guns with d20. Just a twitch of mine, man. Others differ. Plus, I can't make heads or tales of this Megatraveller (I hear badly edited?), New Era (virus thing? Like the Jamie Lee Curtis movie?), 2300AD horseshit, so I'm going straight to the source.

If you want a little extra abstraction and like Spirit of the Century, we as an exercise last night tried to make Traveller work in that Fate 3 framework. Our assumption going in was that the result would be ridiculous. Instead it's shaping up to look more like fun. If you want to use any or all, please feel free.

Obviously this is incomplete at this time and relies heavily on having Classic black box Traveller for most of the sandbox stuff inherent in the original work -- system generation and so forth.

Pierce Inverarity · April 28, 2007, 03:52:35 PM

I will say that while lately I've actually begun to like this & that about T4 (chargen, setting), and even this & that about the MT setting (Arrival Vengeance = like, whoa!)... I don't see it happen for TNE.

It's not so much because of what it is (though that is hard to swallow), it's because of what it destroyed. That's disgusting. It's like nuking Greyhawk from orbit and then rebuilding Eberron on the ruins.