Quote from: Brad on December 03, 2023, 08:36:54 PM

Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

How many Jews did Milo shove into the ovens? Just curious.

None, but given what we've seen over the past two months from the Left if he had they'd probably think he was okay.

Quote from: PulpHerb on December 04, 2023, 09:53:03 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 03, 2023, 08:36:54 PM

Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

How many Jews did Milo shove into the ovens? Just curious.

None, but given what we've seen over the past two months from the Left if he had they'd probably think he was okay.

Only if he started calling himself Al Udabi Milo first.  Remember, white people cannot do anything but lick the soles of feet but an Islamist can commit genocide in the name of Allah because we need to respect other cultures.

Quote from: PulpHerb on December 04, 2023, 09:53:03 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 03, 2023, 08:36:54 PM

Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

How many Jews did Milo shove into the ovens? Just curious.

None, but given what we've seen over the past two months from the Left if he had they'd probably think he was okay.

We've gotten to the point where the fact that I co-published a book with an Israeli game designer (Omer Joel, Barbarian Conquerors of Kanahu) would probably be used as further evidence that I'm a Nazi. "See? Working with Israel -- he supports Palestinian genocide - Nazi!"

Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years. I spent far more time working for left-wing Hollywood at Defy Media. Given how much  money I earned from Defy, you'd more plausibly call me a "lackey of the Hollywood oligarchs."

Quote from: amacris on December 04, 2023, 03:04:16 PM

Quote from: PulpHerb on December 04, 2023, 09:53:03 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 03, 2023, 08:36:54 PM

Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

How many Jews did Milo shove into the ovens? Just curious.

None, but given what we've seen over the past two months from the Left if he had they'd probably think he was okay.

We've gotten to the point where the fact that I co-published a book with an Israeli game designer (Omer Joel, Barbarian Conquerors of Kanahu) would probably be used as further evidence that I'm a Nazi. "See? Working with Israel -- he supports Palestinian genocide - Nazi!"

Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years. I spent far more time working for left-wing Hollywood at Defy Media. Given how much  money I earned from Defy, you'd more plausibly call me a "lackey of the Hollywood oligarchs."

Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon

Of course those rules never apply to them, only to us notzees.

Hmm. I think I need to repost this on r/RPGDesign after letting the r/RPG NPCs cooldown.

I am active on Reddit, and I used to mod RPGDesign. Reddit is a deeply flawed platform. You have to actively dodge the hate-mobs, and sometimes there's nothing you can do about them besides wait until the weekend has passed and the slactivists shrivel up and die in the light of a Monday morning work day.

What really concerns me about this is that within four posts of the top, the dude is getting fetish-shamed by someone who clearly has no way of knowing it. I can practically guarantee you that someone bought upvotes (yes, that's a thing on Reddit; Reddit itself doesn't offer it officially that I know of, but there are a variety of places which offer it as a business to business service) to put that comment as close to the top as possible. In other words, this is deliberate character assassination and the mods of RPG are just rolling over because mods on Reddit habitually lack spines.

Reddit has always been an echo chamber due to its design, and it's worse now because they've hidden the sort by controversial button. You can still get it by adding "/controversial" to the URL, but few people will do that.

Blacklisting creators for any reason is petty, lazy, and shortsighted. They've taken one step closer to TBP.

I don't need some internet rando telling me what subjects I can and cannot talk about. Nobody with any self respect should put up with that.

Quote from: amacris on December 04, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years. I spent far more time working for left-wing Hollywood at Defy Media. Given how much  money I earned from Defy, you'd more plausibly call me a "lackey of the Hollywood oligarchs."

  And I get the distinct feeling you'd have more to say if not for those non-disclosure and non-disparagement agreements ...

It may have already been said, but one of the main reasons Alex is banned is because the Woke Cult will call him a Nazi, he's been literally accused of being an alt-right terrorist who is responsible for hundreds of death by the raving lunatic Frank Trollman. 

As a result, he will sue people for libel/defamation if they make such accusations or allow them on their site, so to avoid having to mod their users and remind them how delusional they are, they simply do not allow conversation on him, or ZakS, who has has sued and won several such lawsuits.

I'm pretty  sure it was less "allow them on their site" and more just the former part of "make such [false and defamatory] accusations". Also doing so as formal site representatives, for the rpg.net incident that is the only real controversy there that can be referenced. And he didn't even threaten to sue I don't think, he just called people he thought he knew and had previously supported and asked if they would stop said representatives from continuing doing something obviously sketchy and wrong. To which they responded by accusing him on the internet of planning to sue and banning the discussion of both him and his games from the site. Because apparently they couldn't be assed to correct issues nor could they trust their own ACTUAL site representatives (not regular posters, but accredited mods and blah) not to also do something morally wrong to begin with for which they would be theoretically answerable in court. Or more likely because they wanted to damage him and his business with no real repercussions and then cry victim.

Relatively confident  I'm right on this?

Quote from: crkrueger on December 04, 2023, 05:08:46 PM
raving lunatic Frank Trollman. 

So ban the unhinged liars.

Quote from: KindaMeh on December 04, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
nor could they trust their own ACTUAL site representatives (not regular posters, but accredited mods and blah) not to also do something morally wrong to begin with for which they would be theoretically answerable in court.

If you can't trust those mods, get rid of them. 

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 04, 2023, 09:57:54 PM

Quote from: KindaMeh on December 04, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
nor could they trust their own ACTUAL site representatives (not regular posters, but accredited mods and blah) not to also do something morally wrong to begin with for which they would be theoretically answerable in court.

If you can't trust those mods, get rid of them.

That's my point, for sure. They weren't even willing to correct issues within the representation of their own site's authority. But I kinda doubt those jerks even saw that defamatory content as an issue. Hence why I think it was ultimately just an excuse to screw him over.

Quote from: amacris on December 04, 2023, 03:04:16 PM

Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years.

Well, some people are okay with Milo, and that's one level. Some people actually like him, or at least did, at one time. Working for the guy is next level.

It reminds me of the old joke:

So a man walks into a bar, and sits down. He starts a conversation with an old guy next to him. The old guy has obviously had a few. He says to the man:

"You see that dock out there? Built it myself, hand crafted each piece, and it's the best dock in town! But do they call me 'McGregor the dock builder'? No! And you see that bridge over there? I built that, took me two months, through rain, sleet and scoarching weather, but do they call me 'McGregor the bridge builder'? No! And you see that pier over there, I built that, best pier in the county! But do they call me 'McGregor the pier builder'? No!"

The old guy looks around, and makes sure that nobody is listening, and leans to the man, and he says:

"But you fuck one sheep..."

Quote from: pawsplay on December 05, 2023, 12:44:39 AM

Quote from: amacris on December 04, 2023, 03:04:16 PM

Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years.

Well, some people are okay with Milo, and that's one level. Some people actually like him, or at least did, at one time. Working for the guy is next level.

It reminds me of the old joke:

So a man walks into a bar, and sits down. He starts a conversation with an old guy next to him. The old guy has obviously had a few. He says to the man:

"You see that dock out there? Built it myself, hand crafted each piece, and it's the best dock in town! But do they call me 'McGregor the dock builder'? No! And you see that bridge over there? I built that, took me two months, through rain, sleet and scoarching weather, but do they call me 'McGregor the bridge builder'? No! And you see that pier over there, I built that, best pier in the county! But do they call me 'McGregor the pier builder'? No!"

The old guy looks around, and makes sure that nobody is listening, and leans to the man, and he says:

"But you fuck one sheep..."

Hardly anybody but pearl clutching leftards even know who Milo is, much less care about who associated with him.
It's some mighty weak tea to justify a blacklist/topic ban.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 05, 2023, 12:44:39 AM

Quote from: amacris on December 04, 2023, 03:04:16 PM

Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years.

Well, some people are okay with Milo, and that's one level. Some people actually like him, or at least did, at one time. Working for the guy is next level.

It reminds me of the old joke:

So a man walks into a bar, and sits down. He starts a conversation with an old guy next to him. The old guy has obviously had a few. He says to the man:

"You see that dock out there? Built it myself, hand crafted each piece, and it's the best dock in town! But do they call me 'McGregor the dock builder'? No! And you see that bridge over there? I built that, took me two months, through rain, sleet and scoarching weather, but do they call me 'McGregor the bridge builder'? No! And you see that pier over there, I built that, best pier in the county! But do they call me 'McGregor the pier builder'? No!"

The old guy looks around, and makes sure that nobody is listening, and leans to the man, and he says:

"But you fuck one sheep..."

Although I am the butt of this joke, I admit, it made me laugh. Fair enough, really. If someone wants to disassociate from me because I worked with Milo, I can at least respect them for having an actual reason. It is altogether another thing to claim that I am (as Frank Trollman claimed) personally responsible for the deaths of dozens to hundreds of people, or that I am a Nazi, and so on. The former is a fact, the latter is a lie.

PS to be clear, I worked *with* Milo, not *for* him. I was hired by an investment group to manage him so that he could become a respectable Republican comedian version of Bill Maher. In the ostensible corporate hierarchy, he worked for me! In actual practice, Milo proved beyond my skills to manage, and obviously the move to being a respectable Republican didn't happen. I've come to terms with my failure in this regard. But it's simply not true that (a) I worked for Milo or (b) that I funded or invested in Milo. He never signed my paychecks, full stop. I was a hired gun for the venture capitalists who set up MILO Inc, to whom I fulfilled my 1-year obligation, and to whom I remain bound by non-compete, non-disclosure, and more.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 05, 2023, 12:44:39 AM

Quote from: amacris on December 04, 2023, 03:04:16 PM

Pawsplay -- I am many things but I am not a "Milo guy". I worked with him for one year in a 22-year career and quit. He and I haven't spoken in 4 years.

Well, some people are okay with Milo, and that's one level. Some people actually like him, or at least did, at one time. Working for the guy is next level.

It reminds me of the old joke:

So a man walks into a bar, and sits down. He starts a conversation with an old guy next to him. The old guy has obviously had a few. He says to the man:

"You see that dock out there? Built it myself, hand crafted each piece, and it's the best dock in town! But do they call me 'McGregor the dock builder'? No! And you see that bridge over there? I built that, took me two months, through rain, sleet and scoarching weather, but do they call me 'McGregor the bridge builder'? No! And you see that pier over there, I built that, best pier in the county! But do they call me 'McGregor the pier builder'? No!"

The old guy looks around, and makes sure that nobody is listening, and leans to the man, and he says:

"But you fuck one sheep..."

So, since Robert Carlyle Byrd (longest serving Democratic senator) WAS a member of the KKK AND Friend and Mentor to Hillary Clinton, you wouldn't dream on voting for a Democrat EVER and we can find pages upon pages of you denouncing the Democratic Party for their long association with the KKK (it wasn't only Byrd), right?

No, because it's six Degrees of Kevin Bacon for everybody else but your side.