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Alexander Macris Banned Discussion Topic On Parts of Reddit

Started by KindaMeh, November 30, 2023, 03:25:11 PM

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Venka

#45
December 02, 2023, 01:34:40 PM Last Edit: December 02, 2023, 01:37:03 PM by Venka
Quote from: Jam The MF on December 02, 2023, 01:16:23 PM
That doesn't sound like an agenda, to me?  I'm not an ACKS hater.  Everything I hear about the game, is positive.  All the hate, seems to just be personal attacks on the creator.  It's a shame.

What I think is worth pointing out is that /r/rpg and /r/osr both shut down discussion of a popular and very well regarded OSR product, deliberately, to fuck with the kickstarter, for no reason at all except that they are leftwing activists who will do anything to hurt the people that they hate.  That assuredly include Macris, but honestly, it probably includes most people here- they just don't have a button to press to fuck with us, as they do with him.

Omega

#46
December 02, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
This is why I say the OSR is not the unassailable bastion of free thinking some keep claiming it is.

It is being progressively infiltrated and twisted by the Woke and gaining control of fora like Reddit allows them to further control the narrative and start pushing things towards their own hateful agendas.

Exploderwizard

#47
December 02, 2023, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Omega on December 02, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
This is why I say the OSR is not the unassailable bastion of free thinking some keep claiming it is.

It is being progressively infiltrated and twisted by the Woke and gaining control of fora like Reddit allows them to further control the narrative and start pushing things towards their own hateful agendas.

Reddit is a bigger hive of scum and villainy than the cantina at Mos Eisley.
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GeekyBugle

#48
December 02, 2023, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: Omega on December 02, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
This is why I say the OSR is not the unassailable bastion of free thinking some keep claiming it is.

It is being progressively infiltrated and twisted by the Woke and gaining control of fora like Reddit allows them to further control the narrative and start pushing things towards their own hateful agendas.

Who is the pope of the OSR?

Who is the one that can decide what everybody else must do?

Reddit is irrelevant, the pressure comes from the twitteraty.
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PulpHerb

#49
December 02, 2023, 11:32:19 PM
Quote from: NotFromAroundHere on December 01, 2023, 03:27:50 AM
That's the reason for banning discussions on Macris' works, not because r/rpg is "anti-free-speech" or "woke": there was direct evidence of violation of reddit's rules, and in these cases a mod team must act or reddit will act for them (usually by closing the sub). Same thing for r/osr: they were brigaded.

And I'm sure that never happened with any other fanbase.

And it's not ACKS or the ACKS KS that is banned, but anything associated with him.

Again, it's an excuse, not a reason.

yosemitemike

#50
December 02, 2023, 11:50:52 PM
So there's direct evidence that Macris was behind the brigading?  Let's see it.
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Kiero

#51
December 03, 2023, 07:07:14 AM
Quote from: Jam The MF on December 02, 2023, 01:16:23 PM
That doesn't sound like an agenda, to me?  I'm not an ACKS hater.  Everything I hear about the game, is positive.  All the hate, seems to just be personal attacks on the creator.  It's a shame.

Game? You think the haters even have the first idea what ACKS is?

They're moronic bandwagon-jumpers, someone else told them to hate Macris, so they do. Most of them don't even play RPGs anyway.
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GeekyBugle

#52
December 03, 2023, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 02, 2023, 11:50:52 PM
So there's direct evidence that Macris was behind the brigading?  Let's see it.

Dude, there's not even evidence of said brigading.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

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Jaeger

#53
December 03, 2023, 04:07:37 PM
However you slice it, Macris has been unfairly targeted.

All because once upon a time he quit working for someone that they don't like.

His KS did around 300K, but it should have been over 400.

These unfair attacks do make a difference IMO...

They will do anything, and make up anything to hurt him. All because they have decided that he is the Enemy...

It's Sad, and I'm glad it's being called out in this thread.
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#54
December 03, 2023, 06:13:01 PM
The best part is, there was anti-ACKS brigading from the other side. Arguably more, as the pro-brigading was in response to the brigading being done first against the Kickstarter. But it was only the pro side that got banned.

That said I never saw any actual evidence of this pro ACKS brigading, it was more like people just excited to talk about and defend the Kickstarter against people's anti-Macris grudge.
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Zelen

#55
December 03, 2023, 06:38:39 PM
I can't emphasize enough that a disturbingly high number of Reddit admins & mods have been exposed as paedophiles & other deviants and criminals. Similar problem afflicts Discord.

There really isn't a solution to this problem aside from refusing to use these websites and letting others know that these websites are extremely scummy. It's a big reason why I prefer a private forum run by an actual person or company (like this one).

Elfdart

#56
December 03, 2023, 08:00:56 PM
QuoteTo reflect this, we have established a new Rule 6: No Blacklisted Creators.

I remember when blacklists were considered a bad thing, and being on one was considered an honor (though it was small compensation to someone whose career and life was ruined).
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Kyle Aaron

#57
December 03, 2023, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 02, 2023, 09:16:48 PM
Who is the pope of the OSR?

Who is the one that can decide what everybody else must do?
This is why I like Judaism, there's no Pope, no final authority, just a bunch of experienced and learned guys arguing amongst themselves, and people follow some individual if they want to, while most of us just ignore it all and pick and choose what we want to do.

If it works for a religion it'll work even better for some geekery.
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Brad

#58
December 03, 2023, 08:36:54 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

How many Jews did Milo shove into the ovens? Just curious.
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PulpHerb

#59
December 04, 2023, 09:52:17 AM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on December 03, 2023, 08:16:20 PM
This is why I like Judaism, there's no Pope, no final authority, just a bunch of experienced and learned guys arguing amongst themselves, and people follow some individual if they want to, while most of us just ignore it all and pick and choose what we want to do.

If it works for a religion it'll work even better for some geekery.

I would point out the majority of Christians don't recognize the Pope even if he heads the largest communion. No other large communion has such a head (the Orthodox have patriarchs but they are equals within communions and they lack the kind of authority the Pope has even within their own churches).
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