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So, when D&D 6E finally drops...

Started by Razor 007, October 17, 2018, 10:45:20 PM

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Razor 007

I think 5E, as presented in the PHB, could be the closest thing to an evergreen edition we've ever seen.  6E needs to be a major home run, to justify a purchase of the 3 core books.  It's entirely possible, as long as they carefully consider what to do with 6E.  It just needs to be great, because 5E already is.  Keep being great.
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Razor 007

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1064125It's just as well. LSD and swimming are an odd mixture, and one I'll never repeat.

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Quote from: Razor 007;1064129I grew out of the try anything culture a long, long time ago...

But I have been there, and done that...

I'm almost 40, so my long long ago actually was long, long ago.

Razor 007

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1064132I'm almost 40, so my long long ago actually was long, long ago.

Well, I'm older than you.  I was born back before they even started the development of the Little Brown Booklets.  Chainmail may not have been released yet.
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Daztur

Quote from: Razor 007;1064092Some people seem to expect only minor tweaks to 5E, reflected in 6E.  If so, then why re-buy all the core books for minor tweaks?

I expect at least a handful of significant changes; but even that will be a gamble, because 5E could be played until the cows come home.

Well if they release 6ed in 2025 or so I don't think they'd have that much trouble selling people new books with minor tweaks because:
1. By that time there'll be a pretty broad consensus of what shit people want tweaked, so if they keep the changes small they should avoid pissing off too many people.
2. The cries of "oh my God it's just a cash grab!" after it's been so long will be muted.
3. With 5ed not having so much of a splat treadmill you won't have so much burnout.
4. If people play regularly their books will probably be falling apart at that point anyway.
5. They can purge the last annoying vestiges of 4ed without too much screaming resulting since not even rpg.net gives a shit about 4ed anymore.
6. Good excuse for a marketing push and by that time people will be ready for some new shit.

CoC has had plenty of editions that've been minor tweaks, a lot of games have. Nothing wrong with a new edition that's just minor tweaks. D&D's weird in that the game has been re-designed from the ground up three times in the last two decades. Don't think that's happened to any other games I can think of, even ones with lots of editions.

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Quote from: Razor 007;1064619Well, I'm older than you.  I was born back before they even started the development of the Little Brown Booklets.  Chainmail may not have been released yet.

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Eric Diaz

Don't try to keep up with the editions, it's a losers game.

Write your own version of D&D instead!

No really, I LIKE 5e (the mechancis are really good IMO), but I already have more books than I will read 10 times more feats than I'll ever use and 100 more spells than I'll ever need. Last time I played 5e was lots of fun but I regret no going with my 50-page clone.

Also, 5e books are mostly boring and crunch-focused so far (point me to three or four cool setting ideas from 5e and I'll reconsider, but I'm impressed with how boring they can get - couldn't get past the first pages of Volo's or Mordenkainen's, well at least I like the oblex). Compare it to, say, DCC, a book I often open at random to find something awesome.

If that is the winning model, 6e will probably be worse in these aspects, and I won't be able to use my 5e books.

Buying all that stuff again? Unlikely.
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Quote from: Eric Diaz;1064669Don't try to keep up with the editions, it's a losers game.

Write your own version of D&D instead!

No really, I LIKE 5e (the mechancis are really good IMO), but I already have more books than I will read 10 times more feats than I'll ever use and 100 more spells than I'll ever need. Last time I played 5e was lots of fun but I regret no going with my 50-page clone.

Also, 5e books are mostly boring and crunch-focused so far (point me to three or four cool setting ideas from 5e and I'll reconsider, but I'm impressed with how boring they can get - couldn't get past the first pages of Volo's or Mordenkainen's, well at least I like the oblex). Compare it to, say, DCC, a book I often open at random to find something awesome.

If that is the winning model, 6e will probably be worse in these aspects, and I won't be able to use my 5e books.

Buying all that stuff again? Unlikely.

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S'mon

I expect 6e will come out in 2024 to hit the 50th anniversary.

fearsomepirate

I'm expecting a refresh with new cover art and reorganization (like encounter tables in the DMG), but not a significant rules rewrite like each WotC edition has been so far. It'll be similar enough that if you don't want to buy new rule books to play new adventures, you won't have to, same as with 1e to 2e.
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Quote from: S'mon;1064686I expect 6e will come out in 2024 to hit the 50th anniversary.

They will do a 5.5 edition before then.

Razor 007

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1064706I'm expecting a refresh with new cover art and reorganization (like encounter tables in the DMG), but not a significant rules rewrite like each WotC edition has been so far. It'll be similar enough that if you don't want to buy new rule books to play new adventures, you won't have to, same as with 1e to 2e.


I would take a look at a new DMG.
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RPGPundit

We can't know what 6e will be like, because there's no real 6e in the works as of now, as far as we know anyways. And it would be unlikely that would happen while 5e is still doing so strongly.

I agree, though, that 6e's makeup will depend a lot on who's in charge at WoTC when it comes out.
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