So, I know there are several projects of AD&D2 clones out there. One of them is titled "For Gold & Glory". I just found out that the PHB and DMG materials for the retroclone are 100% complete at this point, with the MM material being at 5% completion, with steady progress.

The Rich Text Document of the rules so far can be found on that site.

Synchronicity.

I just found this game and website last night and downloaded it.  I'm looking forward to reading through it.

Huh.

I wouldn't have thought there'd be much of a market for such a thing, but there we are!

(not trying to start an edition war here, I'm happy for 2e fans)

Yeah, that's my point of view as well. If anything, I would have actually liked to see a 2nd ed OSRIC Companion of some sort. I didn't think that several 2nd ed projects would come up (and honestly, I think there are too many people coming up with new retroclones now rather than adding to existing ones their own takes on them), but I do know there are some big 2nd ed fans around here so... I guess the game can find some aficionados here.

Quote from: Benoist;410778Yeah, that's my point of view as well. If anything, I would have actually liked to see a 2nd ed OSRIC Companion of some sort. I didn't think that several 2nd ed projects would come up (and honestly, I think there are too many people coming up with new retroclones now rather than adding to existing ones their own takes on them), but I do know there are some big 2nd ed fans around here so... I guess the game can find some aficionados here.

I know a couple of big 2e fans over at DF were absolutely convinced that OSRIC was "illegal" (which was ridiculous on so many levels, of course it isn't "illegal") - I'm not sure how big of an influence they may or may not have been on the 2e community, but regardless (if 2e is what 2e fans like) I'm glad they've shaken that off if it indeed was a factor and are getting what they want...

Myth & Magic was the other 2e clone I had heard of: http://www.newhavengames.com/

If Gold & Glory is going for "hot 'n ready" then Myth & Magic looks like they'll win the slow, pretty merit badge.  I only managed to glance over the current free document but it looks like they might be going for an "inspired by 2e" game and then creating some new rules.  Maybe someone with more time could poke it a bit further.

Watch in another decade or so, there will be more than a thousand retro clones which replicates older editions of any and all rpgs which ever existed (and many variations).  :cool:

Quote from: ggroy;410789Watch in another decade or so, there will be more than a thousand retro clones which replicates older editions of any and all rpgs which ever existed (and many variations).  :cool:

I as a joke said "Oh I want to see a Dragons of Underearth retro-clone, ha ha ha" (I didn't understand the lineage between DoU and TFT) and lo and behold there's a TFT clone!

Quote from: thedungeondelver;410771I wouldn't have thought there'd be much of a market for such a thing, but there we are!

With AD&D 2e the dominant game of it's era, like AD&D 1e was, it only a matter of time before interest in a retro-clone developed.

First we will see nostalgia and folks who never quit buy stuff. Followed by a expanding network of new fans.

How long before we see a white-wolf retro-clone. Granted there a couple of more problems like the lack of an open gaming base and that the game was setting heavy. But I bet a fan community will develop within the decade if not sooner along with developing an alt-world of darkness.

It's a tossup for me on which edition I played most between B/X and 2e. B/X holds a special place in my heart because it was my first introduction to RPGs but 2e gave me my first adventure publishing credits through Dungeon so I'll probably give a serious clone a look. My only real issue with 2e was its system inconsistencies. Like having a character who can only be surprised on a 1 on 1d6 encounter a monster who surprises 50% of the time. Sure, I can do the math and convert but I shouldn't have to! :-)

Pete

Something else feels different about this current batch of clones:  Do you think it matters that most of the 2e library can still be bought and sold online for peanuts?  My own books are in great condition, even though they saw heavy use (probably because everyone had their own copies of the PHB and we "went through" a few).  But really, on Amazon or whatever it looks like the core books are going for just a few dollars unless you want "new" or "collectible" condition.

I mean, I dig that part of the push for cloning is to strike up enthusiasm, a community, and a new generation of support.  If all those things follow the clones, I think that's great.

But it does feel a little different somehow to go clone when the original is so accessible.  Maybe I'm just getting too old to feel this is retro yet.  Or something.

Quote from: winkingbishop;410814Something else feels different about this current batch of clones:  Do you think it matters that most of the 2e library can still be bought and sold online for peanuts?  My own books are in great condition, even though they saw heavy use (probably because everyone had their own copies of the PHB and we "went through" a few).  But really, on Amazon or whatever it looks like the core books are going for just a few dollars unless you want "new" or "collectible" condition.

I mean, I dig that part of the push for cloning is to strike up enthusiasm, a community, and a new generation of support.  If all those things follow the clones, I think that's great.

But it does feel a little different somehow to go clone when the original is so accessible.

Yeah AD&D can be bought for peanuts too but the 2e clones - and I swear I'm not making this up, there's a 3.0 clone out there somewhere (not Pathfinder, either) - do feel a little unstuck in time.

Sooner or later someone is going to get confused and do a Labyrinth Lord clone.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;410930Sooner or later someone is going to get confused and do a Labyrinth Lord clone.

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"A simpler game to revisit the heydays of the first half of 2010, when rules were simpler and dammit you could just sit down and game with some friends using PDFs and 3g iPhones before the whole hobby became swamped with people who wanted to drag in a bunch of irrelevant mush."

Quote from: RPGPundit;410930Sooner or later someone is going to get confused and do a Labyrinth Lord clone.

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Tom Moldvay did that! Sooner...much sooner, in fact.