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What is essential for Harn?

Started by RunningLaser, April 02, 2015, 05:18:33 PM

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crkrueger

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September 25, 2024, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on January 30, 2023, 10:31:58 PMIt's a fun game!

I suggest HarnWorld whatever edition if you want to use Harn, if not chose aa HarnMaster and go. Making characters can be a mess and take a while, but you get quicker and quicker as you learn the rules. Very front loaded would be a way to put it. It's hard to even play D&D after doing some battles in Harn. :)

That is a problem I've noticed with good combat systems like Harnmaster and Mythras.  It ruins other games you used to enjoy because the combat is so non-sensical or dull.
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Jason Coplen

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September 26, 2024, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: crkrueger on September 25, 2024, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on January 30, 2023, 10:31:58 PMIt's a fun game!

I suggest HarnWorld whatever edition if you want to use Harn, if not chose aa HarnMaster and go. Making characters can be a mess and take a while, but you get quicker and quicker as you learn the rules. Very front loaded would be a way to put it. It's hard to even play D&D after doing some battles in Harn. :)

That is a problem I've noticed with good combat systems like Harnmaster and Mythras.  It ruins other games you used to enjoy because the combat is so non-sensical or dull.

I can DM a D&D based game for a while, but after RQ and HarnMaster I find D&D too superhero-y at about level 5. Inflating HP is a mess, and has always been a mess. I'm prepping for Baptism of Fire (to start after I move shortly in several weeks. I hope.). I hope it solves the too many HP problem of D&D. I get the D&D appeal, but RQ turned me off D&D when it comes to combat. Sure, it's not as whimsically high-powered as D&D, but, you know what, I don't need high-powered anymore. I tried for many years to get D&D to work better for me, but I keep failing. It keeps me busy trying to figure it out.

What's worse is that I watch shows and still think in D&D terms. I go, oh hey, he's a 7th level Fighter. Heh.

Oddly, I can play older D&D and do okay, but for GMing it flops.

I actually yet have to play Mythras. I've made several characters for it, and I find character creation to be nice and much easier than RQ3.
Running: HarnMaster and Baptism of Fire

Dongmaster

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September 30, 2024, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: crkrueger on September 25, 2024, 03:21:36 PMThat is a problem I've noticed with good combat systems like Harnmaster and Mythras.  It ruins other games you used to enjoy because the combat is so non-sensical or dull.

Yeah, I have been away from rpgs for 20 years but spent my last 15 years before that with HârnMaster. I can't for all in me play other rules than HârnMaster now that I have returned. I love to read OSE, Dragonslayer and even Dragonbane (though there are modern stuff in it that make me say "no this won't happen") but that is it. And once you get it, the system is fast and tactical.
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Jason Coplen

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September 30, 2024, 05:53:24 PM
Quote from: Dongmaster on September 30, 2024, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: crkrueger on September 25, 2024, 03:21:36 PMThat is a problem I've noticed with good combat systems like Harnmaster and Mythras.  It ruins other games you used to enjoy because the combat is so non-sensical or dull.

Yeah, I have been away from rpgs for 20 years but spent my last 15 years before that with HârnMaster. I can't for all in me play other rules than HârnMaster now that I have returned. I love to read OSE, Dragonslayer and even Dragonbane (though there are modern stuff in it that make me say "no this won't happen") but that is it. And once you get it, the system is fast and tactical.

It's hard to return to inflating HP and goofy combat after playing HarnMaster and her cousins (RuneQuest, Mythras, Chivalry & Sorcery, etc.). I spend time reading other games, and I think they could be fine games for people not named me. :)
Running: HarnMaster and Baptism of Fire
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