Quote from: trechriron;830958Here I was thinking the Internet was going to be a great revolution and instead we just cast a fucking spell and turned the world into a goddamn Muarey Povich show. The fact I actually typed his name correctly BEFORE looking it up clearly shows I somehow am part of the problem. Fuck. Me.

Quote from: AnthonyRoberson;830976I NEVER said the term was racist, I said it was in POOR TASTE. I still contend that naming a monster after a carny slang term for a preserved dead baby is not the best marketing idea in the world.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;830995I feel fairly certain that the Pathfinder version comes from the same source, either directly or through Carnival. (F. Wesley Schneider was a big Ravenloft fan.)

   So what's the backstory on the Pathfinder version? Ravenloft's monstrous version had a sort of 'budding' origin off of a cursed NPC.

Quote from: Bren;831046I freely admit I don't know what the genesis or folk history of the Tiyanaks is. I suspect that the Tiyanak has an origin or underlying myth prior to the Spanish conquest of the Philippines. Abortion monsters are not a commonly seen thing in Catholic countries world wide which we would expect if Catholicism was the root cause of the aborted baby monster myths.

And if people eating fetus monsters were not enough, the Philippines also features monsters that eat fetuses like the Aswang,  Matruculan, and Manananggal. Some of these Asian and  Austronesians monsters are seriously weird and creepy.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;831054Pickled Punk from Pathfinder SRD.

QuoteSome necromancers (especially those on the edge of sanity) and some intelligent undead cultivate a fondness for pickled punks and regard them as their children. They talk to their various jars in cooing tones and are known to even carry around favored specimens on outings and social calls, often granting them names and imagined personalities.

Quote from: Bren;830968I got an adventure hook so surprisingly this thread was not just a colossal waste of everyone's time.

Quote from: AnthonyRoberson;830953I am NOT the kind of gamer that generally gets upset by gaming related stuff, even if it is in poor taste or offensive but this one has my panties in a wad. It looks like Dungeons Deep, the next set of prepainted Pathfinder Miniatures, is going to have a miniature called a 'Pickled Punk'.  So what you say?

Well, if you want to know the real world origins of this term, check out THIS Wikipedia article. What it doesn't say is that most modern examples came from the stillborn or aborted remains of the children of African-American mothers.

Poor taste indeed.

Quote from: AnthonyRoberson;830974Only personal experience. I am friends with someone that worked in the biology lab of a university in the South. Almost all of their 'pickled punks' came from African-American origins. It was common knowledge that this was the way these fetuses were obtained in the early 20th century.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;831080The "I heard this from a friend" defense might work in other *ahem*, safer parts of the internet, but around here you need a better case than that.