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A common sense approach to the supposed issues allegedly plaguing our hobby

Started by Lord Dynel, July 21, 2020, 10:08:10 PM

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Lord Dynel

It's a few months old, but somehow I missed this.  If this has been posted already, my apologies!

If only certain people associated with this hobby could take a more rational approach to the issue...then perhaps it wouldn't be an issue?  But maybe that's the point.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202004/no-orcs-arent-racist

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Mr_X

Frankly this is part of a harassment campaign against whites.

Orcs aren't racist but the accusation is.

They're not genuinely offended, they're giving whites a hard time any way they can and are taking advantage of white guilt to do it.  Although, to be fair, some of them are probably just bullies who like pushing people around in general and don't have an anti-white axe to grind but recognize an easy target.

tenbones

1) I don't need a psychologist to tell me Orcs aren't black people. Orcs AREN'T REAL. If you are a retard and believe Orcs are stand-in's for black people at your table, and you enjoy killing Orcs because they're stand-ins for black people whom you pretend to hate: You're doing it wrong on so many conceivable idiotic levels, you're more of a threat to yourself than anyone else. Someone this fucking stupid is just as likely to drown themselves brushing their teeth or blinding themselves permanently eating with a fork as hurting someone elese.

2) This has nothing to do with racism and has everything to do with deconstructing all sub-cultures on the way to deconstructing western culture itself.

Eye on the ball.

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The French are all Elves! Because they can't get enough wine and swords!
Halflings are from Belgium! Or the Ivory Coast! Because chocolate! Racist chocolate!
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Mercurius

I posted that article a couple times over at enw. One person brought up the author's white-maleness.

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Quote from: Spinachcat;1141140Dwarves are Jews! Because they love gold and axes!
The French are all Elves! Because they can't get enough wine and swords!
Halflings are from Belgium! Or the Ivory Coast! Because chocolate! Racist chocolate!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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Quote from: Mercurius;1141143I posted that article a couple times over at enw. One person brought up the author's white-maleness.

So I guess that means more chance of the author using objective, rational linear thinking if I remember the training protocol correctly.
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S'mon

Quote from: Mr_X;1141130Frankly this is part of a harassment campaign against whites.

Albeit most of the harassers are whites.
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Spinachcat

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Them Jews are always hoarding warpstone for their beloved cannons!
No other ethnic group behaves like that.
But that's also why Squats were taken out of 40k because GW hates Jews.

Wow. This enlightened critical theory stuff is easier than I thought! Who knew you could just whip it out of your ass without the slightest shred of credibility?

TJS

Quote from: Mercurius;1141143I posted that article a couple times over at enw. One person brought up the author's white-maleness.
The only access to truth is through the authentic lived experience of marginalised people

How do you tell the difference between authentic and inauthentic lived experience?  You know because authentic experience aligns with scripture.  Wait?  Did I say scripture?  Obviously I meant theory.  It aligns with theory.

So obviously the way to answer the question are Orcs racist is to keep asking marginalised people until you find one to give you the answer you've already decided is the correct one.  Of course if you are a marginalised person then you can just save time by asking yourself.

If white people say anything else then it's obviously because they themselves are racist.  If a marginalised person gives you an inauthentic answer then it's because they've internalised the racism against them.

In short we don't need good arguments about why Orcs are not racist.  It's about as fruitful as trying to reason with that guy waving the bible on the street corner and screaming that's everyone's going to hell.

We're dealing with a religion.  Want we need is not debate, but the enforcement of secular boundaries.

jeff37923

Quote from: Lord Dynel;1141113If only certain people associated with this hobby could take a more rational approach to the issue...then perhaps it wouldn't be an issue?  But maybe that's the point.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202004/no-orcs-arent-racist

Holy Gross Conceptual Errors, Batman....
"Meh."

Mercurius

Quote from: TJS;1141158The only access to truth is through the authentic lived experience of marginalised people

How do you tell the difference between authentic and inauthentic lived experience?  You know because authentic experience aligns with scripture.  Wait?  Did I say scripture?  Obviously I meant theory.  It aligns with theory.

So obviously the way to answer the question are Orcs racist is to keep asking marginalised people until you find one to give you the answer you've already decided is the correct one.  Of course if you are a marginalised person then you can just save time by asking yourself.

If white people say anything else then it's obviously because they themselves are racist.  If a marginalised person gives you an inauthentic answer then it's because they've internalised the racism against them.

In short we don't need good arguments about why Orcs are not racist.  It's about as fruitful as trying to reason with that guy waving the bible on the street corner and screaming that's everyone's going to hell.

We're dealing with a religion.  Want we need is not debate, but the enforcement of secular boundaries.

Well said. The irony is that Malcolm X warned about the "white liberal" 55 years ago: "The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn't taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man."

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