5e Essentials Kit "married Gnome Kings" co-ruling

Brad · October 09, 2019, 08:25:25 PM

Quote from: jhkim;1108625Dude, I didn't actually think that Aragorn was flamingly gay.

I knew you had SJW tendencies, but understood even you weren't 100% Chaotic Liberal.

Omega · October 09, 2019, 09:45:59 PM

Quote from: Brad;1108650I knew you had SJW tendencies, but understood even you weren't 100% Chaotic Liberal.

Its a trap. Done believe him! :eek:

jhkim · October 09, 2019, 10:28:03 PM

Quote from: PatThat's still applying your prejudices, like you did before with Aragorn. You were wrong about Tolkien, and you're right about Greenwood, but that's not the point.

Quote from: jhkim;1108625Dude, I didn't actually think that Aragorn was flamingly gay.

Quote from: Brad;1108650I knew you had SJW tendencies, but understood even you weren't 100% Chaotic Liberal.

Heh. Thanks for your faith and support, Brad.

S'mon · October 10, 2019, 03:58:46 AM

Quote from: jhkim;1108568OK, so you're claiming that homosexuality is actually suppressed in the Realms, in contradiction to what Greenwood says.

If we're playing in Ed's Magical Realm, there is a place for autogynephiliac m2f gender-swapping, as well as (beautiful, busty) bisexual mage-queens, (beautiful, busty) young female mage-apprentices, all with a strong gerontophile interest in corpulent bearded sages, etc etc. But it bears little resemblance to Jeremy Crawford's Magical Realm, so there's little place for male on male homosexuality - at most that's just something that happens in the background.

Omega · October 10, 2019, 06:16:37 AM

Reading a little further through ToA and here is another, and surprisingly not male for once. A female merchant who has as consorts a succubus and incubus. And like the other evil merchant with a male consort. She too is fleshed out a bit.

WillInNewHaven · October 10, 2019, 09:47:18 AM

Quote from: jhkim;1108419Just to check that I am understanding what you are saying here... What I understand is that if you only want LGBT characters if they contextually matter - but you can't think of any cases where it would matter. Thus, there are no positive examples you can cite of LGBT characters in an RPG. Is that a fair assessment?

As I said, I don't think that there is an overall benefit or drawback to having LGBT characters. I don't think modules with LGBT characters are overall better than modules without LGBT characters, and conversely, I don't think modules without LGBT characters are better. If I hear that a module has an LGBT couple in it, it makes me neither more interested nor less interested in buying it.

Personally, I will include LGBT characters when they seem to fit. For example, last week I re-ran a game of my Buffy the Vampire Slayer RPG (Cinematic Unisystem), and among the six PCs one was lesbian and one was bi. (NOTE: That doesn't mean that I think all games need 33% LGBT, it's just that this game happened to have two characters.) I thought they were both cool characters who fit well with the game, which was set in modern-day Santa Cruz. The first was "Ashley McBay, Gay Vegetarian Wiccan Rich Girl" -- which nicely captured a side of Santa Cruz, and who was roughly the Santa Cruz equivalent of Cordelia in the TV series. Here's her character sheet:

http://darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/buffy/chars/display.cgi?shortname=slayerbot/ashley

The other character was Tori, "Goth Chick from Hell" -- a transplant from Sunnydale. Also a fun and cool character, I thought, for a comedy-action game.

http://darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/buffy/chars/display.cgi?shortname=slayerbot/tori

So cool that you are running that game. I have to tell C.J. Oddly enough, the first playtest sessions featured a guy playing a lesbian Slayer and a gay woman playing a really slutty straight woman. "Slutty" was the player's description. I prefer "generous."

tenbones · October 10, 2019, 09:58:11 AM

Quote from: Omega;1108632Just didtch the Korobokuru dwarves and replace them with more traditional and accurate koro-pok-guru which cleave closer to certain types of gnomes. Like 5e's Forrest Gnomes.

What are the chances we can get them in a 5e Adventure Path? I hear they're docked 30-points on the Oppression Scale because they're Asian, and they're not as Oppressed as other marginalized non-indigenous groups of hetero-adjacent interests and pan-spectrum identities?

WillInNewHaven · October 10, 2019, 10:13:29 AM

This is a powerful Elf Mage NPC in my Black Mountain District setting.

Alcorelen has a predilection for short affairs with humans and this is the nearest place to her usual haunts where they may be found. Sometimes she loiters in the taverns around the Pocket, where a player-character might encounter her. She is extremely attractive. Her opinion of the faction struggle is that dwarfs are stuffy and should lighten up or at least shut up.

Should I change "humans" to "human men or women" to be woke enough or to "human males" to be unwoke enough?

nope · October 10, 2019, 10:24:35 AM

Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1108722Should I change "humans" to "human men or women" to be woke enough or to "human males" to be unwoke enough?

Are you implying the character is so closed-minded she refuses to even consider having sex with other races? That is... a little problematic.

Omega · October 10, 2019, 10:32:25 AM

Quote from: tenbones;1108720What are the chances we can get them in a 5e Adventure Path? I hear they're docked 30-points on the Oppression Scale because they're Asian, and they're not as Oppressed as other marginalized non-indigenous groups of hetero-adjacent interests and pan-spectrum identities?

Interestingly so far there has not been any adventures or material for Kara-Tur. There has been some asian themed class paths. Samurai and Kensai come to mind. But so far nothing set over there. Maybee once they get this demon obsession out of their system?

Omega · October 10, 2019, 10:34:07 AM

Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1108722Should I change "humans" to "human men or women" to be woke enough or to "human males" to be unwoke enough?

Human Gnomes.

WillInNewHaven · October 10, 2019, 10:37:19 AM

Quote from: Antiquation!;1108725Are you implying the character is so closed-minded she refuses to even consider having sex with other races? That is... a little problematic.

Since she's an elf, she is having sex with other species. In fact, she just turned down an elf suitor who traveled a long way to court her. Is she a bigot for not banging dwarfs? hobbits? goblins? I don't know.

nope · October 10, 2019, 10:42:43 AM

Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1108730Is she a bigot for not banging dwarfs? hobbits? goblins? I don't know.

Depends who you ask. Won't SOMEBODY, PLEASE think of the kobolds!

Omega · October 10, 2019, 10:48:13 AM

Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1108730Since she's an elf, she is having sex with other species. In fact, she just turned down an elf suitor who traveled a long way to court her. Is she a bigot for not banging dwarfs? hobbits? goblins? I don't know.

Maybee she has a round ear fetish? :cool:
Maybee she is turned off by those dead black halfling eyes Holloway liked to draw?

Maybee she has a fear of heights and dwarves are just too scary?

Omega · October 10, 2019, 10:55:31 AM

Quote from: Antiquation!;1108731Depends who you ask. Won't SOMEBODY, PLEASE think of the kobolds!

Someone did! Half Kobolds in Malatra wayyyyyy back. We try to not think of the kobolds now. :eek: