5d6, throw out the lowest two...

Gronan of Simmerya · January 14, 2018, 05:46:48 PM

Quote from: S'mon;1019513STR 9 DE 14 CO 14 IN 15 WI 16 CH 17... I'm seeing a Mata Hari or Jane Bond type seductress/assassin, competent in combat (good DEX & CON) but really dominant in social situations - very smart, insightful & charming. I like 5e Rogues so I reckon I'd go Rogue (Assassin).

Assuming it's in order, you've got a 17 Charisma. Play a fucking Paladin! Drain some Wisdom down to get your STR up high enough for an XP bonus. With that INT score you'll have several languages you can take.

Assuming it's OD&D, which is the Only D&D.

Gronan of Simmerya · January 14, 2018, 05:47:20 PM

Quote from: Tetsubo;1019251Awesome. I am genuinely and sincerely happy for you. But in *my* experience no one I know wants that. They want to play the character concept they have already. And you just reinforced why I want this thread deleted. But since that doesn't seem possible I'm out. You folks go ahead and have all the 'badwrongfun' pile-ons you want.

Aww, did Pundy give your dinkie a sad?

Gronan of Simmerya · January 14, 2018, 05:56:37 PM

In the 45 years I've been playing RPGs, I have had very few encounters with people who weren't willing to just ride with the dice. There are so many different games out there that if you don't like random roll games... don't play them! TFT dates back to 1977 or so, and it's as simple a character generation as OD&D.

The few times I HAVE encountered it, the players were also problematic in terms of complaining about ANYTHING that didn't go their way; they wanted to ALWAYS succeed at EVERYTHING they attempted. And oh Jesus, if their character got killed!

So my experience has made this a real danger signal for me. YMMV.

Azraele · January 15, 2018, 12:30:07 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;10179763d6 straight, or GTFO.

Holla

It's amazing how easy it is to sell people on this if you don't run your game like a chowderhead. "No, you don't have to roll to tie your shoes. What did Pathfinder do to you?!"

Shawn Driscoll · January 15, 2018, 03:58:14 AM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1019522The few times I HAVE encountered it, the players were also problematic in terms of complaining about ANYTHING that didn't go their way; they wanted to ALWAYS succeed at EVERYTHING they attempted. And oh Jesus, if their character got killed!

I see plenty of games where DMs kowtow to players at their table that are sore losers.

S'mon · January 15, 2018, 05:04:06 AM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1019519Assuming it's in order, you've got a 17 Charisma. Play a fucking Paladin! Drain some Wisdom down to get your STR up high enough for an XP bonus. With that INT score you'll have several languages you can take.

Assuming it's OD&D, which is the Only D&D.

OD&D with that splatbook Greyhawk supplement, right?

Willie the Duck · January 15, 2018, 11:05:51 AM

Quote from: S'mon;1019556OD&D with that splatbook Greyhawk supplement, right?

Well, he did indicate that they should play a paladin, so I'm guessing yes. And it's also SIWCDCh, so the rolls actually make Str 9, Int 14, Wis 14, Con 15, Dex 16, and Cha 17.

Willie the Duck · January 15, 2018, 11:10:20 AM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1019522In the 45 years I've been playing RPGs, I have had very few encounters with people who weren't willing to just ride with the dice. There are so many different games out there that if you don't like random roll games... don't play them! TFT dates back to 1977 or so, and it's as simple a character generation as OD&D.

Tetsubo has indicated that he plays Pathfinder. I don't remember if there's an official rules for point buy stats, but I know it is done. So he has a non-random roll game, and he's undoubtedly playing it. So, once again, we have a non-problem here.

Willie the Duck · January 15, 2018, 11:15:09 AM

Quote from: Tetsubo;1019251And you just reinforced why I want this thread deleted. But since that doesn't seem possible I'm out. You folks go ahead and have all the 'badwrongfun' pile-ons you want.

First of all, I don't know any forum where it is the norm to allow the OP to request a thread to be deleted simply because they do not like the direction the conversation went.
Second, I think you would find it advantageous to read all responses on subjects like this to have an invisible "It is my opinion that (and mostly pertaining to my own gaming style)..."

Shawn Driscoll · January 15, 2018, 12:59:07 PM

Quote from: Willie the Duck;1019619I don't know any forum where it is the norm to allow the OP to request a thread to be deleted simply because they do not like the direction the conversation went.

3rd-wave forumism.

Kyle Aaron · January 15, 2018, 04:38:58 PM

Quote from: Tetsubo;1019251But in *my* experience no one I know wants that. They want to play the character concept they have already.

It's because they know they can. If I know I am joining a game where I can design a character down to their shoelaces, then I'll come up with a detailed character concept. If I know I am joining a game that's random, then I'll just go with it.

Obviously, if you promise them a point-buy game and then make them random roll, they'll be pissed off. And vice versa.

It's about expectations, son. You'll find people are fairly open to trying out a variety of playstyles. I mean, even Pundit plays a storygame.

Ras Algethi · January 15, 2018, 05:30:52 PM

Groups should roll stats how they like and what best fits the game-style they are playing.

RPGPundit · January 17, 2018, 09:44:39 PM

Yeah, we don't delete threads when they don't go the way the author intended.

soltakss · January 20, 2018, 02:40:57 PM

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1019720Groups should roll stats how they like and what best fits the game-style they are playing.

Yep, totally agree with that.

RPGPundit · January 22, 2018, 02:19:15 AM

Sure, if they want to play easy-mode, that's their right.