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4E - My review!

Started by Abyssal Maw, March 02, 2008, 04:58:23 PM

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#105
March 04, 2008, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Dirk RemmeckeI am not sure about how the "roleplay intense" part fits in, but here is a quote from one of Massawyrm's glaring "reviews":

"XP works a lot differently now too. EVERYTHING you do can pretty much get you XP. The big change is that Social Encounters will net you xp. Traps and puzzles are XP based rather than just CRs. And taking a tip from WoW, there are even QUEST REWARDS now. The DMG even includes suggestions on how PC's can instigate their own quests. These are no longer vague rule suggestions – but are instead hard and fast rules that allow you to really control the rate of level progression without feeling like you're just lumping XP on the PC's. At the same time, the new system allows you to take the players from one level to the next without ever having to swing a sword. Not that you'd necessarily want to, but all of a sudden courtly intrigue and puzzle quest heavy campaigns are just as viable XP wise as straight hack and slash. And it's all based on the same simple mechanics."

Yeah but are courtly intrigue and puzzles now resolved the way traps have been: with just die rolls?

Or is there actual guidelines to roleplay in the book? Are they "social mechanics"? Or actual roleplay?

If resolving the succession crisis is fixed in exactly the same way as disarming the 30' spiked pit, then its not really much use, is it?

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#106
March 04, 2008, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditIf resolving the succession crisis is fixed in exactly the same way as disarming the 30' spiked pit, then its not really much use, is it?

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D&D 3E uses the same d20 + skill roll to solve a social situation (Diplomacy) and a dungeon trap (Disable Device).

Obviously, roleplaying the succession crisis is essential, but that is something added by the players and the GM, not the system. The real question is whether the new game interferes with them or not.
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#107
March 04, 2008, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditNot really. For Pramas and True20 this might be a real motive; I wouldn't doubt it: it was his motive for claiming year after year that "4e is coming!".

But I'm not quite so insane as to think that any significant number of people are going to check out FtA! SOLELY because they're unhappy with 4e. FtA! doesn't have that kind of coverage. I certainly hope people check it out, but that won't be what causes it.

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You sure seem to hope it will be. :rolleyes:
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#108
March 04, 2008, 04:21:58 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditAgain, the way you talk makes it sound like there are two totally different sets of rules or conditions: "normal time" and "4ncounter Time".  And that the former is really there just to be a vehicle between one and the other of the latter.

It was explained that encounter abilities recharge once you had a break of approximately 5 minutes.

So Eladrins can teleport every five minutes. I wonder if they even bother to build stairs.

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#109
March 05, 2008, 12:01:52 AM
Quote from: MelanI am also curious about the list (and no snark is intended). I know he wrote stuff. I know he likes to name-drop his old school creds. But what is his contribution to the hobby?

I have no idea!

Mike Mearls wrote Iron Heroes, which is the finest implementation and expansion of the 3.5 mechanics I have ever come across. I intend to use its skill system instead of the core in every 3.x game I run from now on.

Edit: The revised handbook is much cleaner and better done than the original. I do agree his work would often benefit from a sharper editor and more oversight.
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#110
March 05, 2008, 01:38:09 AM
Quote from: blakkieYou sure seem to hope it will be. :rolleyes:

Yeah but its a vain hope, and to think that's my motivation here is just silly.

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#111
March 05, 2008, 08:26:37 AM
My actual plan is find some players who didn´t like WoW and MMO gamestyle of playing like I!After that successful searching,maybe I will try play 4.E with some of house-rules!
Quote from: RPGPunditBut I'm not quite so insane as to think that any significant number of people are going to check out FtA! SOLELY because they're unhappy with 4e. FtA! doesn't have that kind of coverage. I certainly hope people check it out, but that won't be what causes it.

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Off topic:Guys,maybe I´m stupid but what is it this FtA?
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#112
March 05, 2008, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: LokkenOff topic:Guys,maybe I´m stupid but what is it this FtA?

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