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[4e is not for everyone] The Tyranny of Fun: quit obsessing over my 2008 post already

Started by Melan, June 27, 2008, 04:42:17 AM

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StormBringer

#1140
June 23, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;389521Sorry, I'd like to spend more time watching recorded shows and films than fucking around with the OS! :P  Also I have the box ready to go, just looking for a good card.  People speak well of Happauge or however you spell it.
Oh, man, you aren't still seriously buying into that bullshit are you?  :)

I have had exactly zero problems watching whatever the hell I want to watch on the Monster here.  A new codec for the video player, but that is no different than Windows, really, you just don't see it happen.  Other than that, Ubuntu alerts me when it needs upgrades, and I decide which ones I want, and it takes care of itself.

You should give it a second look.
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StormBringer

#1141
June 23, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: beejazz;389524I don't know, mechanical representation for somebody that just dabbles has always been kind of spotty for me. So even if it's not optimal, it's still pretty cool, and the sort of thing I might run with.
No kidding.  I am trying to puzzle out some houserules that use some kind of 2e 'kit' theme with maybe an additional 10% or whatever xp requirement.  It's not easy.  :)

QuoteThough maybe CharOp matters sometimes... if Track had been a skill instead of a feat, I think more non-rangers would have used it (to give an example). But skill based magic in D&D is probably too much to ask, and about as "not D&D" as anything 4e did.
Sure, it does have its place, just not something I can really get into.  I don't think placing 'track' as a skill instead of a feat is really optimizing, though.  That is more 'proper design' in my book.  :)
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J Arcane

#1142
June 23, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
The problem you will have with a home made HVR, is that many cable companies now scramble their signal, and you will be unable to use it with a HVR card unless your cable company at least has the decency to offer their own card that can decrypt the signal.
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beejazz

#1143
June 23, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;389506Excellent.  The Apple price point was always a big turn off for me.  Anyway, I'm looking for some info on a good PVR card to get for my HTPC.

Anyone else?

I've got a hand-me down hp that sounds like a lawnmower. Operating system got eaten by viruses so I'm running Ubuntu studio on it. Too much of a PITA to get my Wacom working on it.

Then I've got this new Dell I'm typing on. Windows 7. Not that bad.

Benoist

#1144
June 23, 2010, 05:49:12 PM
Bring Linux tech bullshit, and see how the thread goes on a tangent in no time! :D

thedungeondelver

#1145
June 23, 2010, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: StormBringer;389525Oh, man, you aren't still seriously buying into that bullshit are you?  :)

I have had exactly zero problems watching whatever the hell I want to watch on the Monster here.  A new codec for the video player, but that is no different than Windows, really, you just don't see it happen.  Other than that, Ubuntu alerts me when it needs upgrades, and I decide which ones I want, and it takes care of itself.

You should give it a second look.

Dude, about two or three years back I looked at mythTV and got as far as YOU MUST HAVE A SQL OR MYSQL SERVER RUNNING TO and I fell asleep at that point.  Again, I've got the stuff (Win7, all the HW) just need a card :)
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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thedungeondelver

#1146
June 23, 2010, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: beejazz;389531I've got a hand-me down hp that sounds like a lawnmower. Operating system got eaten by viruses so I'm running Ubuntu studio on it. Too much of a PITA to get my Wacom working on it.

Then I've got this new Dell I'm typing on. Windows 7. Not that bad.

I do like 7.  7+ MSE = JOOOOOY

Hell the Win7 beta I ran on a VM configured as a 1ghz machine with a half gig of RAM ran just fine...!

(Although now happily using it on a dual core athlon box with 4gb RAM)
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Astrophysicists are reassessing Einsteinian relativity because the 28 billion l

StormBringer

#1147
June 23, 2010, 05:53:18 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;389535Dude, about two or three years back I looked at mythTV and got as far as YOU MUST HAVE A SQL OR MYSQL SERVER RUNNING TO and I fell asleep at that point.  Again, I've got the stuff (Win7, all the HW) just need a card :)
I swear to God, this is not an exaggeration.  Three clicks, maximum, and you will have a MySQL server set up in Ubuntu.  I am not fucking kidding about that.  It is actually a bit more complex to set up without an admin account and password, but you can do that if you want, too.  Otherwise, three clicks and a password, done.
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beejazz

#1148
June 23, 2010, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: StormBringerNo kidding.  I am trying to puzzle out some houserules that use some kind of 2e 'kit' theme with maybe an additional 10% or whatever xp requirement.  It's not easy.  :)
I tried figuring out how to revamp some of the 2e concepts for personal use once. It didn't go well. I think it's just having started with 3x, certain things just didn't click like they probably should have. It's funny... i keep finding old books at church sales for like 2$, and I can neither pass them up nor find anything to do with them. Still no 1e DMG.

QuoteSure, it does have its place, just not something I can really get into.  I don't think placing 'track' as a skill instead of a feat is really optimizing, though.  That is more 'proper design' in my book.  :)
Yeah... feat status and being packaged with a class made it pretty unattractive to most players. I wouldn't know if 4e player culture is all that into charop, but I can at least see dabbling in magic having a higher style factor than tracking. So I'm sure I'm not the only fan. Even the bard got some love in 3x, after all.

LordVreeg

#1149
June 23, 2010, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Abyssal Maw;389513Rest assured, it is swinery.

I don't know if using OOC information to affect IC actions is necessarily "metagaming". Or if it is , then I don't know if that's "proven to be" against immersion.

I mean, as an example, disease mechanics. A player could use his OOC knowledge of the mechanics of how a disease affects his character to create a more interesting roleplaying scene. For example, if it merely says he's -2 to hit when in sunlight, because he's suddenly light sensitive as the opening stage of vampirism or something,  well that doesn't sound too immersive, but a player who knows that fact can really play that up, and use that OOC knowledge to make something even more immersive.

define swinery, then, since we don't have enough definitions issues yet.  Really.  More, please.

I think it is the definition of metagaming, but I don't know if it can be proven to be against immersion, either.  I think that its a good conversation.
BTW, the above example with diease?  Sounds to me more like the mechanics modelling IC info. I may not know the mechanics of getting a cold or the flu or Mono, but I sure know the exist and what they can do.
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LordVreeg

#1150
June 23, 2010, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: Benoist;389533Bring Linux tech bullshit, and see how the thread goes on a tangent in no time! :D

Well, its all good.  Really.
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Benoist

#1151
June 23, 2010, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: LordVreeg;389550Well, its all good.  Really.
It's not like there's much to salvage at this point.

LordVreeg

#1152
June 23, 2010, 06:06:01 PM
Quote from: Benoist;389554It's not like there's much to salvage at this point.

Like Water Polo, no winners, only survivors?
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StormBringer

#1153
June 23, 2010, 06:16:08 PM
Quote from: LordVreeg;389556Like Water Polo, no winners, only survivors?
Isn't that the case with most water sports?

:jaw-dropping:
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thedungeondelver

#1154
June 23, 2010, 06:49:08 PM
Quote from: StormBringer;389541I swear to God, this is not an exaggeration.  Three clicks, maximum, and you will have a MySQL server set up in Ubuntu.  I am not fucking kidding about that.  It is actually a bit more complex to set up without an admin account and password, but you can do that if you want, too.  Otherwise, three clicks and a password, done.

Okay...is this on?  Can I get a level check?  One-two-two-two-one-check-check.  Okay.  We're good.  Ahem:

WHYYYYYYYY SHOULD I HAAAAAAAAAAVE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??????????????????????????????????????????????

I swear!  It's always the same thing: "Oh man recompiling your kernel is Soooo easy, it takes like two mintues..." WHY DO I HAVE TO???

Note the implied humor here, but come on!
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Astrophysicists are reassessing Einsteinian relativity because the 28 billion l
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