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Started by Benoist, June 06, 2012, 02:33:12 PM

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Benoist

June 06, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
Link to the PDF file (4-page sample).

Looks like they had to OCR and reformat the whole thing after all, but it's very close nonetheless.

Sacrosanct

#1
June 06, 2012, 02:45:09 PM
Looks like they used the TWCent font, which is nice (it's what I used for my retro clone stuff).

The only thing that stands out to me are the references to The Hobbit and Smaug.  Since they are reprints, I'm assuming that WoTC needs to get permission for those?
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Benoist

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June 06, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;546591Looks like they used the TWCent font, which is nice (it's what I used for my retro clone stuff).

The only thing that stands out to me are the references to The Hobbit and Smaug.  Since they are reprints, I'm assuming that WoTC needs to get permission for those?

Looks like fair use to me, since the game actually doesn't make these elements a part of the game itself (unlike OD&D and its Balrog and Hobbits, for instance).

Bedrockbrendan

#3
June 06, 2012, 03:00:37 PM
Quote from: Benoist;546593Looks like fair use to me, since the game actually doesn't make these elements a part of the game itself (unlike OD&D and its Balrog and Hobbits, for instance).

That seems like fair use to me as well. I doubt Gary got permission when he first wrote this, and I am sure the Tolkein people would have come down like a hammer if it wasn't fair use.

Panjumanju

#4
June 06, 2012, 03:23:21 PM
I'm glad to see this project moving forward. I was worried for a while there that it was stuck in development limbo.

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June 06, 2012, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;546596That seems like fair use to me as well. I doubt Gary got permission when he first wrote this, and I am sure the Tolkein people would have come down like a hammer if it wasn't fair use.

Back when Gygax wrote it, the "Tolkein people"  didn't include New Line Cinema and a brigade of dickish lawyers.
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thedungeondelver

#6
June 06, 2012, 03:34:05 PM
This is how it should have been: no sloppy seconds, or thirds, or fourths of old scans.  Thank you, WotC.

Also, hopefully, maybe, someone at Wizards in the process of reformatting and resetting the type actually read it.
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thedungeondelver

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June 06, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;546607Back when Gygax wrote it, the "Tolkein people"  didn't include New Line Cinema and a brigade of dickish lawyers.

Then they'll have to go after Hero Games (the 5e Fantasy supplement mentions many Lord of the Rings elements - Aragorn, the books by name, etc.), and on and on.

It's obvious that this is fair use; they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Marleycat

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June 06, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: Benoist;546589Link to the PDF file (4-page sample).

Looks like they had to OCR and reformat the whole thing after all, but it's very close nonetheless.

Man, that brings back memories.
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Exploderwizard

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June 06, 2012, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;546611Then they'll have to go after Hero Games (the 5e Fantasy supplement mentions many Lord of the Rings elements - Aragorn, the books by name, etc.), and on and on.

It's obvious that this is fair use; they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Oh I completely agree about it being fair use, then and now.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Drohem

#10
June 06, 2012, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: Benoist;546589Link to the PDF file (4-page sample).

Looks like they had to OCR and reformat the whole thing after all, but it's very close nonetheless.

Yes, pretty darn cool. :)

Quote from: Panjumanju;546604I'm glad to see this project moving forward. I was worried for a while there that it was stuck in development limbo.

Me too.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;546608This is how it should have been: no sloppy seconds, or thirds, or fourths of old scans.  Thank you, WotC.

Yes, this as well!

Skywalker

#11
June 06, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Interesting that they chose a 4 page sample with no pictures.

Aos

#12
June 06, 2012, 04:46:26 PM
Heresy I know, but I wish that this thing could be reformatted with a decent sized type face.
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Sacrosanct

#13
June 06, 2012, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Skywalker;546636Interesting that they chose a 4 page sample with no pictures.


Yeah, I'm a bit worried about that, because I remember, years ago, Trampier state that he holds the rights to his artwork because he was wanting to put together a project of all his Wormy Stuff.

If Tramp does hold the rights, and since he appears to want nothing to do with rpgs, it might be problematic to use the same art.

But I doubt that, because the covers reuse some of the old art.  So they have to be able to use it all.
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June 06, 2012, 05:40:27 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;546607Back when Gygax wrote it, the "Tolkein people"  didn't include New Line Cinema and a brigade of dickish lawyers.

Back when Gygax wrote it, he'd already been successfully sued by the Tolkien IP holders.
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