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Is this THE Luke Crane, who´s mocking Warhammer players?

Started by Settembrini, January 07, 2008, 08:46:56 AM

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Settembrini

#30
January 09, 2008, 01:08:39 AM
QuoteIs that correct, and does not liking that make me some kind of dinosaur? :D

Actually, it´s GW thinking, as I´m told.
If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

Pierce Inverarity

#31
January 09, 2008, 02:48:35 AM
Beg pardon, m'lud?
Ich habe mir schon sehr lange keine Gedanken mehr über Bleistifte gemacht.--Settembrini

Settembrini

#32
January 09, 2008, 04:19:39 AM
If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

Balbinus

#33
January 09, 2008, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: The Good AssyrianDBA is short for an ancients miniature game called De Bellis Antiquitatis.  It is a very fiddly kind of game that is derived from a game called De Bellis Multitudinus that appeals to the most wonky of historical miniatures players.

I am somehow ashamed of this knowledge.   :p


TGA

DBA fiddly?  A complete game takes around 40 minutes and is incredibly easy to play, I don't find it remotely fiddly.  I play it in part because I find most historical wargames too fiddly and a common criticism of it by that crowd is that it lacks sufficient fiddle (as it were).

The rule book is really badly written, sufficiently that you do really need someone who already knows the rules to help you learn it, but that's just bad drafting, not complexity.

DBA's a great game, you get huge verisimilitude from very simple rules.

The Good Assyrian

#34
January 09, 2008, 11:31:48 AM
Quote from: BalbinusDBA fiddly?  A complete game takes around 40 minutes and is incredibly easy to play, I don't find it remotely fiddly.  I play it in part because I find most historical wargames too fiddly and a common criticism of it by that crowd is that it lacks sufficient fiddle (as it were).

The rule book is really badly written, sufficiently that you do really need someone who already knows the rules to help you learn it, but that's just bad drafting, not complexity.

DBA's a great game, you get huge verisimilitude from very simple rules.

You are correct, Balbinus.  I gave DBA a hard time mostly because of my experiences with DBM, from which it sprang.  DBM in my memory was a most fiddly game, particularly when it came to the complexities of movement.  That being said, DBA while a move in the right direction on many points just never caught on with me.


TGA
 

Pierce Inverarity

#35
January 09, 2008, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: SettembriniLook here:
 
http://sweetwater.no-ip.info/viewtopic.php?t=1643
 
--> Punkt 4)

Very interesting discussion. It's true, WYSIWYG (to some degree) is important for me--it's either that, or hex-n-chit. That's why I like Stargrunt, FT, Roman Seas etc. Then again, in SG that gives you a disconnect between figure and terrain scale.

Oh, speaking of terrain!

In case you don't know it...

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The piece de resistance:

http://www.tindictator.com/eslo/1103.jpg

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But shipping is free. :haw:
Ich habe mir schon sehr lange keine Gedanken mehr über Bleistifte gemacht.--Settembrini

Callous

#36
January 11, 2008, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: Pierce InverarityThen again, in SG that gives you a disconnect between figure and terrain scale.
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I have played Stargrunt with 6mm figures.  It has a better feel with the figure and terrain scale.
 

Pierce Inverarity

#37
January 11, 2008, 05:48:57 PM
There are 6mm scifi figures? Do they look any good?
Ich habe mir schon sehr lange keine Gedanken mehr über Bleistifte gemacht.--Settembrini

Settembrini

#38
January 13, 2008, 02:51:45 PM
Isn´t
SG in 6mm == Dirtside ?
If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

Ian Absentia

#39
January 13, 2008, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Pierce InverarityThere are 6mm scifi figures? Do they look any good?
Do you mean in general, or specifically for Stargrunt?  In general, the "epic" scale minis for WH40K are 6mm, and they're not bad looking.  Vehicles come off looking better than the individual troopers, but even the troop figs look pretty good.  Don't expect a huge amount of detail, but from the overhead view on the tabletop, they look great.

!i!

Rezendevous

#40
January 13, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
That's him; I met him at GenCon this past year when I bought Burning Empires.  My speakers are busted, so I couldn't listen to the dialogue.  I knew he was a Warhammer player, though, and he plays 40K too.

Pierce Inverarity

#41
January 14, 2008, 12:07:05 AM
Yes, DS is 6mm, but I'm not sure there are infantry figures for it? Will have to check, ditto the 40K angle.
Ich habe mir schon sehr lange keine Gedanken mehr über Bleistifte gemacht.--Settembrini

arminius

#42
January 14, 2008, 03:13:07 AM
Quote from: The Good AssyrianYou are correct, Balbinus.  I gave DBA a hard time mostly because of my experiences with DBM, from which it sprang.
Other way round, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Bellis_Antiquitatis

Callous

#43
January 15, 2008, 03:10:46 PM
Quote from: SettembriniIsn´t
SG in 6mm == Dirtside ?

I believe so.  It does make the terrain and ranges much more believeble in Stargrunt too.  And I think they look fine.  But I'm not a painting miniatures afficianado.  I just want to play the game.
 

The Good Assyrian

#44
January 16, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: Elliot WilenOther way round, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Bellis_Antiquitatis

I stand corrected!  :)  My first exposure to DBA was apparently 2.0, which I had assumed was a new development from DBM.


TGA
 
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