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What are the modern heirs to Wizardry?

Started by Spinachcat, February 24, 2010, 03:31:29 PM

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Spinachcat

February 24, 2010, 03:31:29 PM
I want to play a team-based / turn-based computer RPG - aka, a modern version of the old Wizardry series (or Bard's Tale or Might & Magic, etc).   I never got into the Diablo-esque RPGs because I enjoy party-based adventures and I've got enough button mash games so I am eager to play something slower paced via turns.  

For shits and giggles, I downloaded an SNES emulator and a copy of Wiz V and it felt like archeology.   If its 1st person perspective, that would be awesome!  I never found the Baldur's Gate top down as immersive.

Anything in the computer realm in the last decade that is worth looking at?  

Was anything comparable released for Xbox?

Benoist

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February 24, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
Did you try Mass Effect, for Xbox 360? It might be what you are searching for.
Mass Effect 2 was released fairly recently (within the past few months).

KrakaJak

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February 24, 2010, 08:56:28 PM
Quote from: Benoist;362650Did you try Mass Effect, for Xbox 360? It might be what you are searching for.
Mass Effect 2 was released fairly recently (within the past few months).
Except Mass Effect is totally not turn based.

For the DS there's the Etrian Oddysey series. There a pretty hardcore dungeon crawler heavily inspired by wizardry. Yo even have to draw your own maps on the digital graph-paper on the bottom screen.

Also, there's the Dark Spire. Also for the DS, and incredibly hard. It has an 8bit throwback mode too, where it converts all the graphics and music to 8bit style.
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Benoist

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February 24, 2010, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: KrakaJak;362726Except Mass Effect is totally not turn based.
It's not, indeed. But it's team-based.

Aos

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February 24, 2010, 10:53:33 PM
Accountants?
You are posting in a troll thread.

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Peregrin

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February 24, 2010, 11:30:19 PM Last Edit: February 24, 2010, 11:38:09 PM by Peregrin
*edit*
I need to read threads a bit better.  But yeah, seconding Etrian Odyssey or The Dark Spire.
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Imp

#6
February 25, 2010, 03:04:17 AM
There's a Flash game called Sorcery Quest that works along these lines. I've been playing it for the last few weeks and it's actually quite well put together.

Spinachcat

#7
February 25, 2010, 01:19:30 PM
The DS games look cool.  I hadn't even looked at the DS as a game option and I will do so.   Mass Effect is a favorite of two of my friends and I have been debating getting it as my next Sci-Fi RPG for the Xbox.

I did the demo of Sorcery Quest and its looks fun, but a bit overly anime (mushroom monsters), but it does appear to combine lots of good aspects of different games.  Certainly worth another look.

So what else has been out there?  Anything notable on the PC in the early 00s that I missed?

Quote from: Aos;362749Accountants?

Oy.

Sweeney

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February 25, 2010, 01:46:23 PM
I can't fault the guy for recommending ME even though it totally doesn't fit the OP's needs, it's just that good. :)

I'm wracking my brain to think of turn-based, here, it's much more common nowadays to see that in like the Paradox Victoria games or such. Wizardry did get a few installments in the last decade, and there's also the Might and Magic games -- the modern ones have a turn based or realtime option (and probably turnbased in M&M 7 or 8, say, is more balanced, since it's trivial to dodge ranged attacks in the realtime mode).

There was some other developer out there who was trying to do a Cosmic Forge/Dark Savant type turnbased game, anyone ever hear what came of that?
 

Werekoala

#9
February 25, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
Someone needs to start a game company geared directly to us old farts who can't handle the "twitch-n-shoot" console games. Make lots of really pretty turn-based stuff, some decent wargames, maybe some old-skool RPGs like we're talking about here. Seriously, there must be a decent market for us "first wave" computer gamers who started out on a Commie 64. :)  As much as I liked the Fallout series (from the first to the last), its progenitor Wasteland was still frickin' awesome, and it was team-and-turn-based like we're looking for in the OP.
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Imp

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February 25, 2010, 06:45:40 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;362918I did the demo of Sorcery Quest and its looks fun, but a bit overly anime (mushroom monsters), but it does appear to combine lots of good aspects of different games.

Yeah, it's pretty Dragon-Quest anime. There is also a fair bit of anime style to Etrian Odyssey, but it's the older-kid anime style which may be more tolerable to you. The Dark Spire I have not played.

Also BTW Sorcery Quest isn't a demo, it's one of those games where your turns refresh gradually, which may be a blessing or a curse depending on your POV. But then they want you to pay for more turns or better items or additional character classes.

As for that other game someone was supposed to make? Is it called Grimoire? Because googling around for that returns... wow. A lot of drama and a game in development for 15 years! *low whistle*

JasperAK

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February 25, 2010, 07:27:01 PM
I have a DOS computer right next to my current XP machine that I use to play the Gold Box games from SSI (Pool of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, etc...), the Eye of the Beholder Series, Might & Magic 2, the Bard's Tale series, and of course Wizardry 1-3.

I have played these games for more than two decades and will continue to play them for as long as I can keep a dedicated DOS/Win98 computer working. But (there had to be a but) I wish I there were more recent options that exemplified the dungeon crawls I grew up with.

Casey777

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February 26, 2010, 07:54:16 AM
The only ones I can think off ofhand are mainly larger group if not army-size stuff that mainly takes place aboveground. Stuff like the free Battle for Wesnoth and a commercial series of at least two games whose name totally escapes me at the moment. The 2nd one had a MtG like card game with it. >_<

Narf the Mouse

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March 07, 2010, 12:24:41 AM
Quote from: JasperAK;363036I have a DOS computer right next to my current XP machine that I use to play the Gold Box games from SSI (Pool of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, etc...), the Eye of the Beholder Series, Might & Magic 2, the Bard's Tale series, and of course Wizardry 1-3.

I have played these games for more than two decades and will continue to play them for as long as I can keep a dedicated DOS/Win98 computer working. But (there had to be a but) I wish I there were more recent options that exemplified the dungeon crawls I grew up with.
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JasperAK

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March 09, 2010, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: Narf the Mouse;365154A Virtual Machine solves the need for an actual computer, mostly.

True but there is something visceral about booting up the machine with Wizardry 3.5 floppies. :) (especially since I cannot hack them; talk about deadly dungeon crawling ;) )
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