Mobile Frame Zero: Rapid Attack

That game concept has been mooted for years. I am glad to see it finally being published. Its pretty cool to build mecha from Lego I wonder how good the rules are.

Why is this in Pundie's forum and not Other Games?

Anyways...

Backed it a few weeks ago.  Penny-Arcade name-dropped it (along with Kotaku) and it got a decent push from that.

As for the rules, I always heard good things about Mechaton, they just couldn't get the long-term campaign rules to "click", until now.  Ten or so years worth of on-and-off playtesting should hopefully mean something, but even so, individual skirmishes are supposed to be fun.

The Flickr pages with folks' designs are all sorts of cool, though.

So why can't you do this with LEGOs and Mekton?

Oh wait, that's right! Then you don't have to give money to Vince Baker for it.

Mobile Suit Gundam??

Oh wait...this is something else.  

Quote from: jeff37923;524392So why can't you do this with LEGOs and Mekton?

Oh wait, that's right! Then you don't have to give money to Vince Baker for it.

So... what exactly is your whine here about? Are you upset that Vincent Baker et al have developed a product for sale?

Quote from: Ladybird;524399So... what exactly is your whine here about? Are you upset that Vincent Baker et al have developed a product for sale?

Not a whine and not upset, well maybe I am upset a bit. Just amazed that the tools for this product are already in existance and have already been used in this manner, actually used in this manner since 1987. Yet Vince Baker sticks his name on it and people throw money at him for it? Redefines "Cult of Personality" for me.

Quote from: jeff37923;524409Not a whine and not upset, well maybe I am upset a bit. Just amazed that the tools for this product are already in existance and have already been used in this manner, actually used in this manner since 1987. Yet Vince Baker sticks his name on it and people throw money at him for it? Redefines "Cult of Personality" for me.

Maybe is because a sizable number of persons like this guy's work and are willing to pay him for it. Dunno, like an iPhone. I would not buy one, but I don't need to resort to a "they're a cult" argument to explain that other people may want one.

I'm not interested at all in this game, but again, if he can sell it, more power to him. Variety is good.

Quote from: jeff37923;524409Not a whine and not upset, well maybe I am upset a bit. Just amazed that the tools for this product are already in existance and have already been used in this manner, actually used in this manner since 1987. Yet Vince Baker sticks his name on it and people throw money at him for it? Redefines "Cult of Personality" for me.

Well, that's one way of looking at it... but another is that, if someone else had offered the same product first, they'd be the ones getting funded from this... so more fool everyone else for not going commercial first. I think VB's relationship to it is more incidental to it getting funded than the cause of it getting funded.

(Alas, my Lego collection is limited to Heroica and a Lego Segway model, although I'm going to try and get in one of the games at Conpulsion this year.)

It is sour grapes on my end and those make the best whine.

I've been playing in the anime mecha genre heavily since Mekton II came out in 1987, then went on to use Mekton Zeta when it came out. We would use gundam action figures and anything else we could come up with (including LEGOs) to represent the mecha and usually 1/72" miniature figures from model kits and HO scale train sets as character scale.

Kickstarter was not around back then so we just passed on suggestions via word of mouth and some forums when they appeared. Now a guy gets to write the stuff up, stick his name on it, and make some cash. Just irksome.

What's really selling this, I think, is Soren's LEGO designs, which are quite neat.

I see where you're coming from, Jeff.  There are a ton of mecha games out there, and every mecha-fan looks at LEGO and says "ooh mecha", and then this comes out as Mechaton 2.0.

I'm not familiar with the Mechaton base rules, but with that "doomsday" countdown thing...bleh.

It's pleasing to see this. V. Baker is a good & somewhat prolific designer. It's nice to see something of his take off. Kudos to him.

I'm interested in the Lego designs, truthfully. They look neato.

Mechaton is the only Vincent Baker game I can actually stomach.  It's not my favourite mecha game of all time, and like most Baker games it uses waaay too many dice, but it's fun enough.  Plus, Legos are super nifty.

Jeff37923, did you bitch like this when Heavy Gear was released?  Jovian Chronicles?  No?  Then why the fuck are you whining like a little bitch now?  It's not like Mechaton is "Mekton with rules for using Lego minis," it's a completely different mecha minis game (it's not even an RPG for fuck's sakes) that happens to be anime inspired.  Do you piss and moan every time a new game in an already-done genre is released?

It's certainly true that Vincent Baker has a cult-like following, but it's obviously equally true that Vincent Baker also has a little chorus of whining cunts following him around, ready to bitch about anything he does no matter how innocuous or inoffensive.

KoOS

the mecha lego are cool, but i wouldn't bother with the rest--i have battletech and heavy gear around (plus the d20 minigame from polyhedron) if i need game rules.