Quote from: Piestrio;768623So many games nowadays are ruined by absolutly needless fluff. Diablo 3 would have been just fine with no explicit story at all IMO.

Yeah. The original Diablo had a decent bit of story to it, but it was all hidden away for you to find, if you cared; for a vaguely fantasy-themed shoot-'em-up like Diablo, that's really all you need. Nobody is going to buy it for the story. Nobody cares about what contrivance summoned Diablo et al again this time. People buy it for the click-click-splurch.

At least Blizzard have realised that though, so you get stuff like Adventure Mode where you can just go and twat shit rather than having to come back to town every ten minutes for the next boring story bit, and the expansion's zones are bigger and more full of incidental story things, which work fine and tell stories during gameplay.

I really like the animated-woodcut art style they use for D3's cinematics, though, and the fluffbooks are fun reads.

Story-games fever has infected PC gaming nowadays, that's for sure.

Has anyone else tried the latest Wolfenstein? It's basically a story/puzzle game with some first person shooter elements to it. I kept finding myself frustrated at the brief shooting episodes...then back to freakin' story and puzzles.

On the other hand, I love how Borderlands 2 handled the story. It's a really good story, but you quite often will be shooting things while listening to the story. It might be more fair to say Borderlands 2 is an Easter Egg Hunt with first person shooter elements...but it never forgets it's a shooter, which happens all too often in Wolfenstein.

Quote from: Doom;768775Story-games fever has infected PC gaming nowadays, that's for sure.

Has anyone else tried the latest Wolfenstein? It's basically a story/puzzle game with some first person shooter elements to it. I kept finding myself frustrated at the brief shooting episodes...then back to freakin' story and puzzles.

On the other hand, I love how Borderlands 2 handled the story. It's a really good story, but you quite often will be shooting things while listening to the story. It might be more fair to say Borderlands 2 is an Easter Egg Hunt with first person shooter elements...but it never forgets it's a shooter, which happens all too often in Wolfenstein.

That so? I have only heard good things about Wolfenstein and was eager to play it.

Quote from: Doom;768775Story-games fever has infected PC gaming nowadays, that's for sure.

Has anyone else tried the latest Wolfenstein? It's basically a story/puzzle game with some first person shooter elements to it. I kept finding myself frustrated at the brief shooting episodes...then back to freakin' story and puzzles.

On the other hand, I love how Borderlands 2 handled the story. It's a really good story, but you quite often will be shooting things while listening to the story. It might be more fair to say Borderlands 2 is an Easter Egg Hunt with first person shooter elements...but it never forgets it's a shooter, which happens all too often in Wolfenstein.

I would never be able to tell, as first person shooters make me dizzy. Not sure why it happens, but I'm apparently part of the population that can't handle them. I can't really handle watching other people play Mario Kart for too long, but I'm fine when I play.

Quote from: Imperator;768991That so? I have only heard good things about Wolfenstein and was eager to play it.

Well, opinions can vary, but one sequence in the early part of the game, jumping from one wing to the other, really emphasizes the issue.

Miss the jump, and you die. Reload. Miss the jump and die. Reload. Miss the jump and die. Reload. Both times I played through, it must have taken half a dozen jumps to get that "puzzle" right. There are a number of such puzzles, but that one is particularly noxious.

After the jump? Back to story.

There's a "throwback" where you get to play, more or less, the original Wolfenstein game in a dream sequence.

"YES," I thought as I played it, "I finally get to shoot some nazis!"

Then my character woke up, and back to the story...the whole game, I doubt there's any shooting sequence that takes more than 10 continuous minutes to play through.

The graphics are awesome, the story is good, but I really thought I was buying a shooter.

I was pleasantly surprised recently to find that Stainless Software had decided to give all the backers of Carmageddon: Reincarnation a free copy of the original Carmageddon. It's the GOG version which means I can run it hardware accelerated at a sensible resolution.

It's great fun - in fact I'm sorry to say that good as the new game is, the original is still better despite its age.

In other news, I'm late to the party and I've just picked up Spelunky on Steam. I only got it today so I haven't played much yet, but it's vicious; addictive; and viciously addictive!

I've been playing Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes (4x Fantasy Strategy Game with Tactical Combat) and State of Decay (Zombie Survival RPG) the most lately. I'm positively addicted to FE:LH, but I think SoD was really fun as well.

Quote from: Doom;769132the whole game, I doubt there's any shooting sequence that takes more than 10 continuous minutes to play through.

The graphics are awesome, the story is good, but I really thought I was buying a shooter.

This was my experience with Max Payne 3. "Ok game, when do I get to play?"

I just discovered Terraria, so mostly that. except my stupid pc keeps bluescreening so I don't know how long that will last.

World of Tanks 360 released Soviet tanks a few weeks back so I'm slowly getting back into that, after completely burning out during the beta last fall.

Picked up Oblivion and Fallout: New Vegas on 360 during last weeks sale. I will probably give one of those a go soon. Or Dark Souls. Or the XCOM expansion. Or...

Urgh. I have a massive backlog of unplayed XBox stuff, and my Steam list is even crazier. I get analysis paralysis just trying to decide what to try next. 1st world problem fer sure.

Quote from: Doom;769132There's a "throwback" where you get to play, more or less, the original Wolfenstein game in a dream sequence.

"YES," I thought as I played it, "I finally get to shoot some nazis!"

Wouldn't a throwback to the *original* mean that you're spending time sneaking around and avoiding guards?

Quote from: Doctor Jest;769883I've been playing Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes (4x Fantasy Strategy Game with Tactical Combat) and State of Decay (Zombie Survival RPG) the most lately. I'm positively addicted to FE:LH, but I think SoD was really fun as well.

Hmm, Fallen Enchantress sounds cool. I could swear I've played a Stardock game before, too, but can't remember it.

I bought Age of Wonder III recently. It's good, but it's amazing it suffers the same design issues of the previous games (too little gold, floods and floods of mana). Even though the graphics and all are greatly improved, it's so similar that I just couldn't get "into" it like with a new game.

Just finished Spec Ops: The Line. Really powerful stuff, great ending. I recommend it.

Quote from: Doom;769894Hmm, Fallen Enchantress sounds cool. I could swear I've played a Stardock game before, too, but can't remember it.

If you like 4x games, you probably played one of the editions of Galactic Civilizations

Quote from: Imperator;769943Just finished Spec Ops: The Line. Really powerful stuff, great ending. I recommend it.

I've heard really good things about this, it's definitely on my to-buy list. I like personal focused games that get really dark.

Quote from: Doctor Jest;770131If you like 4x games, you probably played one of the editions of Galactic Civilizations

I miss the original Master of Orion.