The new Version of WizKids has announced that they will be releasing a Hero Clix line of minatures set in the STAR TREK universe this December .
Here is the announcement:
http://heroclix.com/blog/2010/06/08/announcing-star-trek-based-games-from-wizkids/
The Gist of It:
QuoteJune 8, 2010 (Hillside, NJ) – WizKids/NECA and CBS Consumer Products today announced that they have entered into an agreement wherein WizKids/NECA will create HeroClix branded miniature games to be sold both physically and digitally, set in the Star Trek universe, including all of the Star Trek television shows and Star Trek feature films.
"Star Trek changed the way people think about the future," said WizKids/NECA President Lax Chandra. "We are thrilled at the opportunity to marry our innovative game design and exceptional miniatures with the incredibly rich Star Trek franchise. We believe HeroClix and the Star Trek Universe are ideally suited for cooperative gaming and table top miniature simulation and will speak to gamers in a new and compelling way."
The first WizKids/NECA Star Trek game will release around Christmas, 2010 with additional expansions to follow.
Would have been nice a year earlier - then I would have had miniatures for that STAR TREK RPG campaign that I'm running.
- Ed C.
You know that they're oversized (30mm at least), randomized boosters&starters, sloppy-looking minis that are even't worth consideration?
Or are you willing to buy it, as long as the package says "Star Trek"?
Quote from: Phantom Black;390789You know that they're oversized (30mm at least), randomized boosters&starters, sloppy-looking minis that are even't worth consideration?
Or are you willing to buy it, as long as the package says "Star Trek"?
How the fuck would you know this one way or the other - when they are NOT EVEN AVAILABLE YET!???!?
If you're just doing a catch-all dig at WizKids and Hero Clix in general - then it sounds loike you got personal issues.
Not all "clix" fugures were the same height.
Hell, for trhat matter I liked the cartoony Orcs from first edition MAGE KNIGHT better than the more artsy/realistic looking ones from 2nd edition MK. They had a fun goofy feel to them.
Ever remember that thing called Fun???
- Ed C.
Quote from: Phantom Black;390789You know that they're oversized (30mm at least), randomized boosters&starters, sloppy-looking minis that are even't worth consideration?
Or are you willing to buy it, as long as the package says "Star Trek"?
Heh heh, he's probably hoping for minis of the Duras sisters, complete with cleavage.
If he can't get one of those, maybe he'll settle for a 7 of 9 mini.
As to the quality, all prepainted soft plastic figs look fairly poor. The bigger the franchise, the poorer the quality because the makers know the fanboys will buy them no matter what.
Frankly, I'd want unpainted, well sculpted figures that I could paint myself, but I doubt that'll happen.
Cylonophile - How did you even know what I said in my OP?
I have you on my ignore list because a month or more ago Pundit asked both you and I to put each other on IL.
Guess I was the polite one and did as Pundit requested.
For the past month or more, I really cannot see what you have posted unless others put your comments in a quote -OR- I might click on your profile out of curiosity and the statistics drop-window of your posts will tell me the first sentence of your posts. Thats as far as I know of what you have been posting.
- Ed C.
If I can't build an army of Gorn the shit is gonna hit the fan.
Also, I hope there's a "Data" figure with the instant win ability. Oh, the wit!
Anyway, this looks like fun. Wish I had the disposable income to get into it, but Mechwarrior was the last gasp of this sort of thing for me.
Quote from: Insufficient Metal;390840If I can't build an army of Gorn the shit is gonna hit the fan.
Also, I hope there's a "Data" figure with the instant win ability. Oh, the wit!
Anyway, this looks like fun. Wish I had the disposable income to get into it, but Mechwarrior was the last gasp of this sort of thing for me.
Dude,
if I ever meet you in person at a con after Decenmber - I'll loan you figures just so we can have a good 'ol Clix skirmish with STAR TREK characters.
Between my store employee discount and both my Birthday and Christmas being in December - I hope I get a polethora of figures from the first set by mid-January 2011.
As to the one guy saying they're 30mm - we don't know that they are ...yet. Even so, some of us GURPS GMs and players have already been using HEROSCAPE scale terrain and figures. HERO CLIX scale works out just fine for that terrain scale.
- Ed C.
Will Deanna Troi have a titty attack?
This launch has weird timing. They missed the reboot and now put them out two years before the inevitable sequel?
The ST universe will make a fine but limited Clix line. However, the gameplay is the big question. MK and HC drew from very combat heavy genres (fantasy and supers), whereas many ST heroes and notables have neither "magical" or fighting skills.
Quote from: Spinachcat;390887Will Deanna Troi have a titty attack?
This launch has weird timing. They missed the reboot and now put them out two years before the inevitable sequel?
The ST universe will make a fine but limited Clix line. However, the gameplay is the big question. MK and HC drew from very combat heavy genres (fantasy and supers), whereas many ST heroes and notables have neither "magical" or fighting skills.
Depends on how you look at it.
Think of the Dominion War episodes of DEEP SPACE NINE or the Klingon/Cardassian war of the 4th/5th seasons of DS9.
Heck, the original TREK episodes "Trouble with the Tribbles" and "Day of the Dove" have plenty of scenes that could be done by handfuls of clix figures.
For that matter, if you get away from the Federation as focus group - you could do Klingon vs. Romulan, Cradassian vs. Klingon, and Bajorans vs. Cardassian battles that have been referred to in dialogue of various episodes.
- Ed C.
Quote from: Koltar;390843Dude,
if I ever meet you in person at a con after Decenmber - I'll loan you figures just so we can have a good 'ol Clix skirmish with STAR TREK characters.
Between my store employee discount and both my Birthday and Christmas being in December - I hope I get a polethora of figures from the first set by mid-January 2011.
Sounds like fun! I had a blast with Mechwarrior Dark Age and still have my massive collection boxed up somewhere.
I think it'd also be cool if there was a starship variant -- re-enact Wrath of Khan and Enterprise E vs. D and other uber-geeky stuff like that.
I do think it would be hilarious if they had a Troi figure with a special "sense great pain" attack.
Quote from: Spinachcat;390887Will Deanna Troi have a titty attack?
This launch has weird timing. They missed the reboot and now put them out two years before the inevitable sequel?
The ST universe will make a fine but limited Clix line. However, the gameplay is the big question. MK and HC drew from very combat heavy genres (fantasy and supers), whereas many ST heroes and notables have neither "magical" or fighting skills.
Yes this is weird.
Is there much hope that a game like this can succeed? I would have argued, though not with any pleasure, that games like this along with ccg's are really pretty much dead these days.
Sounds interesting; i miss games like this. But no one i know will be playing and frankly i haven't the will for collectible gaming these days.
Quote from: Koltar;390895Heck, the original TREK episodes "Trouble with the Tribbles" and "Day of the Dove" have plenty of scenes that could be done by handfuls of clix figures.
- Ed C.
I would buy Heroclix Tribbles.
Quote from: jeff37923;391267I would buy Heroclix Tribbles.
Roll some chewing gum around on a cat; it'll look more authentic than the clix stuff!
Quote from: jeff37923;391267I would buy Heroclix Tribbles.
I think you can get these little cotton-ball-thingys (my kids call them "pom-poms," and draw faces on them) at any arts and crafts store. Granted, your tribbles will be all the colors tribbles weren't in the series, but you can handwave it and call 'em "rave tribbles," or somesuch.
Oh, just get yourself a few guinea pigs, they're the real-world equivalent.
Quote from: Koltar;390818How the fuck would you know this one way or the other - when they are NOT EVEN AVAILABLE YET!???!?
If you're just doing a catch-all dig at WizKids and Hero Clix in general - then it sounds loike you got personal issues.
Not all "clix" fugures were the same height.
Hell, for trhat matter I liked the cartoony Orcs from first edition MAGE KNIGHT better than the more artsy/realistic looking ones from 2nd edition MK. They had a fun goofy feel to them.
Ever remember that thing called Fun???
- Ed C.
Ah, ok, point to you, BUT my statements apply to the original sets of clix games that i knew about, and yes, played:
- MageKnight: CHECK.
-HeroClix: Check.
And yes, to admit, i dropped out when those Wizkids @%%&=?§$ brought
out MK2.0 and declared all of the original MK figs non-sanctioned for tourney use, which lead to the whole clix scene dying. At least, here in Germany.
Why do i assume they will look bad?
Former experiences (repeatedly) with the company.
Why do i assume the bases will be (at least!) 30mm?
Because they were/are that size with MK, MK2.0 and HC. Yes, i did gauge them, rather found out the hard way, trying to use some MK figs with a Chessex Battlemat.
Why do i assume it's sold in randomized boosters&starters?
Because it's a COLLECTIBLE MINIATURES GAME, like all the others!
IMAO:
Those guys messed up "Shadowrun: Duels", they fucked up MageKnight,
and i'm sure they will proficiently mess with Star Trek as well.
Honestly, i'm astounded you work at a "hobby store" and rather seem to know jackshit about the history of WK and their games, at all.
@Ghost_Whistler: Just read the article on Wikipedia about Mage Knight, the part named "Other products". Nicely sums up what happened back then.
Quote from: Insufficient Metal;390840If I can't build an army of Gorn the shit is gonna hit the fan.
Also, I hope there's a "Data" figure with the instant win ability. Oh, the wit!
Anyway, this looks like fun. Wish I had the disposable income to get into it, but Mechwarrior was the last gasp of this sort of thing for me.
You actually bought the mess? oO WOW.
Quote from: Doom;391473Oh, just get yourself a few guinea pigs, they're the real-world equivalent.
Uh, no, they make doo doos. Tribbles apparently didn't. ;)
Quote from: Phantom Black;391499You actually bought the mess? oO WOW.
What's "oO WOW" about it?
Quote from: Insufficient Metal;391527What's "oO WOW" about it?
Because it was an utter mess, from beginning to end. Yes, i tried it out, together with friends, CBT chapter companions, and it was utterly hilarious.
It was like CBT dumbed down and it played like a bad satire. Honestly, the game was perceived as an abomination, a bad prank gone horribly wrong, at least here. No wonder it bombed and was put on hiatus before Wizkids closed down.
They even went as far with fiddling with the mech concepts
(AGROMECH or FORESTRY MECH, anyone?) and introduced new factions and even renamed old ones.
Ah, I see. Well, I got introduced to it via my FLGS, and the people there seemed to have a lot of fun with it.
I should mention that I was never that much into Mechwarrior / Battletech and am not in the least a "serious" wargamer. I played some of the MW video games and browsed through a couple of the books and that's pretty much it. So I really had nothing to measure the game against.
Don't get me wrong. No offense intended, but that game kinda... failed, in almost every aspect.
Quote from: Phantom Black;391575Don't get me wrong. No offense intended, but that game kinda... failed, in almost every aspect.
None taken.
Quote from: Insufficient Metal;391599None taken.
Inssufficient Metal,
Did you have fun with those skirmish miniatures games?
If the answer is yes - then ignore guys like Phantom Black and when the new STAR TREK Clix minis get released - ask for it as a present for Christmas or Chanukah.
Original
MAGE KNIGHT and
HERO CLIX were basically an excuse to do miniatures gaming as a 'beer & pretzel' games. Same thing for
MECHWARRIOR:DArk Age for that matter.
In that spirit - I don't care what the BATTLETECH 'canon' says about them
They were fun games.
- Ed C.
Quote from: Phantom Black;391558Because it was an utter mess, from beginning to end. Yes, i tried it out, together with friends, CBT chapter companions, and it was utterly hilarious.
It was like CBT dumbed down and it played like a bad satire. Honestly, the game was perceived as an abomination, a bad prank gone horribly wrong, at least here. No wonder it bombed and was put on hiatus before Wizkids closed down.
They even went as far with fiddling with the mech concepts
(AGROMECH or FORESTRY MECH, anyone?) and introduced new factions and even renamed old ones.
Well that makes sense because Cliks are just a dumbed down miniatures game. The setting though is pretty sweet and is pretty much accepted by most as future cannon. Even thought the Official CBT has yet to move on from the "Word Of Blake" stuff. I think mainly because Topps/Catalyst have yet to finish milking that cow, but whatever. But if you dont like it thats fine. I dont really care for the word of blake stuff. But really dig the star league reborn era. Particularly the Capellan-St. Ives war. I guess to each there own.
Oh and just to stay on topic ST as cliks sounds just aweful. Is it going to be actual figures that "battle"? Say for instance Klingon warrior vs Star Fleet ensign? Or is it going to be enterprise vs bird of war? Either way it sounds like a loser to me. I hope you trek monkeys enjoy it though. I mean Roddenberrys decendents need someone to put them through college. Why not you?:p