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Torchbearer: dungeon exploring and survival simulation

Started by silva, April 24, 2013, 07:54:04 PM

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Spinachcat

#450
Luke Crane's game now has an article about it on MTV.com?

Forbes? MTV? Gotta give him mad props for his PR skillz.

Yeah, yeah, anybody can be on Forbes and MTV now...except that's not what's happening. Luke Crane, not a trad designer, is getting interviewed and it is his project, not  a trad project, that is getting all the PR thunder.

So my fellow kewl kidz, let's spend less time bitching about Mr. Crane and more time learning from him so we can promote our own favorite style RPGs.

But again, I'm not bearing Torchbearer until its a boardgame.

HEY RPG PUNDIT! If you are reading this giant trainwreck of a thread, contact both the Forbes and MTV authors and get them a copy of Lords of Olympus and Arrows of Indra. Both are "unusual enough" to be worth their attention.

Jason Coplen

Quote from: Benoist;649959Oh and the lulfest RE: theRPGsite goes on on Luke Crane's twitter: https://twitter.com/Burning_Luke

With special potshots at J Arcane and the like.

He's still a bitch! LOL
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StormBringer

From the Kickstarter:
"But if you're ready to sink your teeth into a good game that will reward  you for mastering the system over 10 or 20 sessions, this is the game  for you."

I don't feel I have truly 'mastered' AD&D after 20 years.
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

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The Ent

Quote from: StormBringer;651610I don't feel I have truly 'mastered' AD&D after 20 years.

Same here.

Imperator

Quote from: Spinachcat;651607Luke Crane's game now has an article about it on MTV.com?

Forbes? MTV? Gotta give him mad props for his PR skillz.

Yeah, yeah, anybody can be on Forbes and MTV now...except that's not what's happening. Luke Crane, not a trad designer, is getting interviewed and it is his project, not  a trad project, that is getting all the PR thunder.

So my fellow kewl kidz, let's spend less time bitching about Mr. Crane and more time learning from him so we can promote our own favorite style RPGs.

But again, I'm not bearing Torchbearer until its a boardgame.

HEY RPG PUNDIT! If you are reading this giant trainwreck of a thread, contact both the Forbes and MTV authors and get them a copy of Lords of Olympus and Arrows of Indra. Both are "unusual enough" to be worth their attention.
I totally agree on this. Yeah, everyone can be on Forbes: well, get on Forbes. Promote your favourite games there.
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Haffrung

Quote from: StormBringer;651610From the Kickstarter:
"But if you're ready to sink your teeth into a good game that will reward  you for mastering the system over 10 or 20 sessions, this is the game  for you."


Fer fuck's sake, the guy should just design euro games.
 

DKChannelBoredom

Quote from: Haffrung;651616Fer fuck's sake, the guy should just design euro games.

Mastered over 10-20 sessions doesn't sound very Eurogamey to me. More like ol' school Avalon Hill (Goddamn Empires in Arms...) :)
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jeff37923

Quote from: Spinachcat;651607Luke Crane's game now has an article about it on MTV.com?

Holy Fuck!

The same entertainment giant that brought us Jersey Shore is talking about Torchbearer! We should all strive to be noticed by such an august venue! :rolleyes:
"Meh."

The Traveller

Quote from: Spinachcat;651607Luke Crane's game now has an article about it on MTV.com?
Link? It's turning into a good example of how to work social media alright. Mind you we've no real idea where the traffic is coming from, he might have taken out an ad in the NYT for all we know.

Quote from: StormBringer;651610over 10 or 20 sessions
I don't know if you're really meant to master a game, nomenclature notwithstanding. Understand it sure, but mastery in this sense is more like something Mr GC might say.

Quote from: Imperator;651615I totally agree on this. Yeah, everyone can be on Forbes: well, get on Forbes. Promote your favourite games there.
There's a good deal more going on under the hood I reckon. One backwater blog isn't bringing all that attention.
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jeff37923

Quote from: The Traveller;651624There's a good deal more going on under the hood I reckon. One backwater blog isn't bringing all that attention.

I think that they are astroturfing interest in this game. They have done it before far too many times.
"Meh."

The Traveller

Quote from: jeff37923;651626I think that they are astroturfing interest in this game. They have done it before far too many times.
They ain't astroturfing thirty grand with 28 days left to go.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

Spinachcat

Quote from: jeff37923;651621Holy Fuck!

The most holy of fucks indeed. Jersey Shore was a financial juggernaut known across the globe. Love MTV or hate it, there is no doubt that MTV.com is a good site to be promoted by.  


Quote from: The Traveller;651624Link?

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2013/05/01/torchbearer-kickstarter/


Quote from: jeff37923;651626I think that they are astroturfing interest in this game. They have done it before far too many times.

Astroturf marketing can work mighty fine.

The Traveller

Quote from: Spinachcat;651628http://geek-news.mtv.com/2013/05/01/torchbearer-kickstarter/
Oho, he works at kickstarter, no wonder it ended up on the staff picks page. That by itself is going to be worth a lot of coverage. Plus if anyone's going to know where the traffic comes from in previously related projects its him. That puts a different slant on things indeed. Still, 22 likes and no comments on the MTV page...

If it is mostly fans of mouse guard and so on I'd expect things to die down a lot over the coming few days and stay quiet till the end, if not there may be something to be learned from the marketing.

Hmm, the Forbes blog seems to have been picked up by a horde of news aggregators like this and this that just repeat content as it appears. That might be part of it.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

Rincewind1

#463
Quote from: DKChannelBoredom;651619Mastered over 10-20 sessions doesn't sound very Eurogamey to me. More like ol' school Avalon Hill (Goddamn Empires in Arms...) :)

Since most Eurogames are easy to learn but hard to master, I'd say that it is a valid point ;).

Quote from: The Traveller;651631Oho, he works at kickstarter, no wonder it ended up on the staff picks page. That by itself is going to be worth a lot of coverage. Plus if anyone's going to know where the traffic comes from in previously related projects its him. That puts a different slant on things indeed. Still, 22 likes and no comments on the MTV page...

I love the most the "I work for the company but but but I'm still totally like, anxious I won't get accepted. Totally."



I'd also like to note that this is a case of "In the land of blind, a man with one - eye is king". Since 99% of game designers either don't know jack about business, don't care about RPGs really seriously anymore, don't want to engage that much or they have actually a bad head for business, when you have a semi - competent guy going on with hardcore viral marketing, he gets results.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Opaopajr

Well, good on him. May he afford his beer of choice in plenty. And may his game afflict/bring joy to the tween MTV crowd as intended.
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