The game bridge could have all the cards in a deck replaced with eg: ships for Ace,Plains for Kings, Tanks for queens, artilary for Jacks - then the rest could be made of weapons types OR soldiers etc.. the suits could be 2 sides allies and 2 sides axis, each winning trick could be a kill.

bidding could be 'German assault 1' instead of 1 spades.

or 'American assault 2' instead of '2 hearts'    etc...

each player in the game would have all 4 sides in there hand, just like spades clubs hearts and diamonds, you can think of your 2 sides being axis against the 2 allies, every trick you win could be thought of as an attack on the enemy or a defence from them, so if you are allies and you win an axis trick that would be a defence won.



I think this could be a really good wargame.

So the rules are the same but the terms are different?  I have a couple of questions.  How does changing the Bridge terminology to military sounding terminology make it a wargame?  Why would people play this game instead of just playing regular Bridge like they have been doing for ages?

This wouldn't be a warfame. A wargame simulates combat on a certain level (tactical, operational, strategic, whatever) and with a certain degree of detail (trying to find a balance between accuracy of simulation and ease and fun of play). In other words, the rules of the wargame attempt to create realistic results; i.e., if a certain situation would likely end in a certain outcome in real life, than the same situation should also likely end in the same outcome in a wargame.

What you're proposing here has absolutely nothing to do with this. All you're doing is taking a game that has nothing to do with the simulation of combat and just changing the names and pictures on the playing pieces. This isn't a wargame any more than a Monopoly or Hungry Hungry Hippo board with warlike graphics, or a game of Hopscotch where you shout "Boom Boom I'm a Spitfire" at every jump.

Never call a rabbit a smeerp.

Quote from: yosemitemike;922929Why would people play this game instead of just playing regular Bridge like they have been doing for ages?

In all fairness, there's a non-trivial number of board/card games out there that are just classic card games with a custom deck.  I'd play this variant.  I agree it's not a wargame in any sense of the term, though.

This is a good idea. You should kickstarter it after getting an artist on board.

The game bridge is a classic, but its fallen off the radar. THIS could use the mechanics for something new.

Go forth and kick ass!

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/259/atlantic-storm

here is one based on bridge

and a wargame does have bridges

Different cart art or card names with no rule changes does not make a game into a different game. Doesn't stop annoying card companies from selling "The Dukes of Hazzard Card Game" or "The Star Trek Card Game" even though that's all they are. I find such things pretty lazy and annoying, especially because it leads to nonsense in the context it's supposed to be about.

6+2 HD, AC 4, rubbery green skin, regenerates 3 points per turn.

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That would be pinochle, not bridge.

Isn't that really the Eurogame boardgame model though?  Take a thematic element and use it to paint over gaming mechanics that don't represent or simulate anything about the actual source material, except in the most abstract way possible?

Quote from: CRKrueger;923145Isn't that really the Eurogame boardgame model though?  Take a thematic element and use it to paint over gaming mechanics that don't represent or simulate anything about the actual source material, except in the most abstract way possible?

You mean like 99% of all gaming?  Sure thing bub.

Quote from: daniel_ream;923005In all fairness, there's a non-trivial number of board/card games out there that are just classic card games with a custom deck.

I would ask the same question about any one of those as well.  Why should I buy your game instead of just playing the public domain game that has been around for ages?  What do you bring to the table?  Uno is a variation of Crazy Eights but it makes significant changes to play along with the custom deck.  It brings something to the table other than just a change of terms and graphics.

Quote from: CRKrueger;923145Isn't that really the Eurogame boardgame model though?  Take a thematic element and use it to paint over gaming mechanics that don't represent or simulate anything about the actual source material, except in the most abstract way possible?

Well I DO avoid almost all Eurogames, and/or games that say they are about something, but play almost nothing like it.

However, the "put other names/art on a card deck" is at least one whole layer of nonsense beyond that (though I admit my aversion to Eurogames limits my knowledge). I also don't like Bridge much, which also limits my knowledge and prevents me from making a perfect example, but say it's Poker - my hand is an American Infantry Attack and two Polish Cavalry, a German U-Boat and a Russian T34 Company? WTF does that even mean? Nothing - it doesn't even have the sides separated, or the relevant land/sea/air branch - the only "WW2-ness" of it is as random and meaningless as possible.

Quote from: Sommerjon;923157You mean like 99% of all gaming?  Sure thing bub.

Yes, that IS my button. NO. Or if it, I am the 1%, and I hate 99% of gaming, which isn't accurate. Or, it's a about as accurate and useful a quip as the stupid crappy games that don't even try.

Quote from: yosemitemike;923186I would ask the same question about any one of those as well.  Why should I buy your game instead of just playing the public domain game that has been around for ages?  What do you bring to the table?  Uno is a variation of Crazy Eights but it makes significant changes to play along with the custom deck.  It brings something to the table other than just a change of terms and graphics.

And IIRC, the "Star Trek Card Game" is UNO with one or two added rules which are just OMGno rules like instead of being the first player to announce "UNO" first, it's something like the first player to say "Beam me up, Scotty" first...

Uhhhgh...