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Storytelling Games

Started by Andy Day, July 04, 2013, 12:53:25 PM

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Piestrio

#45
July 05, 2013, 12:48:18 AM Last Edit: July 05, 2013, 01:05:30 AM by Piestrio
Quote from: TristramEvans;668421Car Wars started in 80 as a tactical mini-game supplement for rpgs about a post-apocalyptic future where players played the drivers of souped-up battle vehicles Ala Death Race 5000. The setting was later developed into an RPG by Steve Jackson games, and car wars became autoduel for a short time, getting a few GURPs-like source books before its popularity waned in the 90s. Pundit has since shunted it off to 'other games' presumably in response to me pointing out that the game was similar in respects to of&d, in that it focuses its rules on the combat elements and role playing is handled free form.

I've never known anyone who thought Car Wars was an RPG. Interesting.

(or a story-game for that matter)

It's a bit like learning that some people are fighting about whether a Bic Mac is a hot dog or a jumbo jet.
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fuseboy

#46
July 05, 2013, 12:54:43 AM
Quote from: Brad;668374So my real question is, why do I need 400 pages of rules to explain how to play "let's tell a story together"? If you're going to use that level of detail, aren't you really taking something away from the most important part of the game: the narrative aspect?

Yes, if you use that level of detail, you're taking some narrative control away. I see that as a good thing.  I enjoy free-form group storytelling for very short periods of time with my kids or with people outside the hobby, but when it's serious gaming time, I absolutely don't want players to have a lot of narrative control.

TristramEvans

#47
July 05, 2013, 01:42:38 AM
Quote from: Piestrio;668424I've never known anyone who thought Car Wars was an RPG. Interesting.

(or a story-game for that matter)

It's a bit like learning that some people are fighting about whether a Bic Mac is a hot dog or a jumbo jet.

It features a skill system, experience system, combat &injury rules, chargen and published scenario modules. Frankly its more of an RPG that white box d&d and boot hill combined. Moreover, I've never encountered anyone who didn't play it as an RPG from the time I started playing in 85 to the present.

Piestrio

#48
July 05, 2013, 01:48:25 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;668428It features a skill system, experience system, combat &injury rules, chargen and published scenario modules. Frankly its more of an RPG that white box d&d and boot hill combined. Moreover, I've never encountered anyone who didn't play it as an RPG from the time I started playing in 85 to the present.

Huh...

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RPGPundit

#49
July 05, 2013, 02:42:24 AM
Quote from: Rum Cove;668411What was the offending mechanic(s)?

I say, post anywhere and give the mods headaches in cleaning it up if they want to be juvenile about it all.

Well, now you've gone and done it. You've forced me to come post here.

How's this then? If anytime in the next while someone appears to follow your instructions, not only will they be banned for disrupting the site, so will you, for inciting that disruption.

If you believe in this so strongly, go ahead and post it yourself, rather than hoping other people will do your dirty work for you thinking you'll avoid punishment.

Seriously, what kind of fucking slimebag are you?

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#50
July 05, 2013, 02:42:47 AM
Quote from: Skywalker;668412Bring on a Simulation RPG forum, Narrative RPG forum and a Tactical RPG forum. :)

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#51
July 05, 2013, 07:22:47 AM Last Edit: July 05, 2013, 07:29:03 AM by Skywalker
Quote from: RPGPundit;668434No, see, here we recognize that Forge Theory is a failed and worthless invention.

At least we agree on something. :)

Skywalker

#52
July 05, 2013, 07:38:09 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;668433How's this then? If anytime in the next while someone appears to follow your instructions, not only will they be banned for disrupting the site, so will you, for inciting that disruption.

So, if someone posts about an RPG in the wrong forum here, which may well likely be innocent given the way the separation is implemented here, and also potentially without knowledge of this post buried away in a single thread in the Other Games Forum, RumCove gets a ban too? Really? :confused:

jadrax

#53
July 05, 2013, 07:45:41 AM
Quote from: Skywalker;668454So, if someone posts about an RPG in the wrong forum here, which may well likely be innocent given the way the separation is implemented here, and also potentially without knowledge of this post buried away in a single thread in the Other Games Forum, RumCove gets a ban too? Really? :confused:

FFS; Posting 'to give mod's headaches' is not 'likely to be innocent'.

One Horse Town

#54
July 05, 2013, 07:47:14 AM
I don't like to say i told you so, but...

Skywalker

#55
July 05, 2013, 07:53:52 AM
Quote from: jadrax;668459FFS; Posting 'to give mod's headaches' is not 'likely to be innocent'.

I was referring to the posting in the wrong forum half of what Rum Cove said, to which Pundit was referring to, as there is no objective way of knowing what gives the mods headaches. That is may well be done innocently.

jadrax

#56
July 05, 2013, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: Skywalker;668464I was referring to the posting in the wrong forum half of what Rum Cove said, to which Pundit was referring to, as there is no objective way of knowing what gives the mods headaches. That is may well be done innocently.

FFS.

this is not fucking rocket science.

Black Cove basically posted 'I hate the fucking rules any everyone should ignore them'.

Pundit posted 'Do that shot and you are banned'

You posted 'Waahhhh! oppression.'

Fucking stop it. It makes you look like a disingenuous cunt.

Skywalker

#57
July 05, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
Quote from: jadrax;668465Pundit posted 'Do that shot and you are banned'

No. The post was if anyone else appears to be do that, you are banned.

I take no issue with warning Rum Cove not to break forum rules or ignore mod warnings, and banning him if he does so. But banning him for a potentially unrelated incident involving someone else is just poor.

jadrax

#58
July 05, 2013, 08:14:54 AM
Quote from: Skywalker;668468But banning him for a potentially unrelated incident involving someone else is just poor.

Well that I agree on, as I would have banned him as soon as I read the incitement.

One Horse Town

#59
July 05, 2013, 08:21:59 AM
I imagine Pundit means if any of the (pardon the term) usual suspects start a thread they know should be elsewhere. It's not too difficult to determine.

I originally closed this thread because i knew it would devolve into this. Andy Day may well have been all innocent in what would follow for all i know (he is fairly new), but after being called "a piece of work" by him via PM for closing it, i thought what the fuck, i pulled the trigger too soon and i'm sure it'll be great!

Wrong, wrong and wrong i was. It's been turned into the usual fighting ground when this crops up.

Well, Andy, you've got some answers to your question - the rest is the circle of hell J Arcane mentioned when this subject comes up.
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