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Steve Jackson's Ogre on Kickstarter

Started by JongWK, April 25, 2012, 12:28:55 PM

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JongWK

April 25, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
Steve Jackson tests the Kickstarter waters, and finds them most welcoming:

Quote1,970 BACKERS
$283,832 PLEDGED OF $20,000 GOAL
16 DAYS TO GO
"I give the gift of endless imagination."
~~Gary Gygax (1938 - 2008)

daniel_ream

#1
April 25, 2012, 02:29:55 PM
I've always enjoyed Ogre Miniatures more than just about any other 6mm SF ruleset, and I've tried a few.  I think the faint hint of absurdity present in the background keeps it on a beer-and-pretzels level and so forestalls a lot of the usual wargaming arguments that tend to break out.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr

beeber

#2
April 25, 2012, 04:11:19 PM
it weighs 16 pounds?  :jaw-dropping:  that's a lot of cardstock

GameDaddy

#3
April 26, 2012, 01:21:10 AM
I'm a backer! It's looking awesome right now!

Also on Kickstarter

Shadowrun Returns has reached $1,504,000 with three days to go in it's Kickstarter Campaign

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns?ref=search

Wasteland 2 was funded on April 15th for $2,933,252 of a $900k goal. Looks like we get to see an awesome new post-apoc PC game shortly! Woot!

the Metamorphosis Alpha RPG Kickstarter has three days to go and is currently funded at $12,905.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jamiechambers/metamorphosis-alpha-roleplaying-game?ref=search

Hellas: The World of Sun and Stone was funded on April 20th at 150% of goal grossing $11,907 for the reprint

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1269000670/hellas-worlds-of-sun-and-stone-rpg?ref=search

Joshua Frost's new RPG Quantum Roleplaying was funded for $42,747 on Dec 30th

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joshuafrost/quantum-roleplaying-game-an-all-new-science-fantas?ref=search

It was like this at the beginning of the d20 era with a cornucopia of awesome new games being released.
Blackmoor grew from a single Castle to include, first, several adjacent Castles (with the forces of Evil lying just off the edge of the world to an entire Northern Province of the Castle and Crusade Society's Great Kingdom.

~ Dave Arneson

daniel_ream

#4
April 26, 2012, 02:02:51 AM
Quote from: beeber;533715it weighs 16 pounds?  :jaw-dropping:  that's a lot of cardstock

At 16 pounds, that makes me wonder if they aren't going to include some metal minis, like the Battletech introductory box set.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr

APN

#5
April 27, 2012, 02:19:03 PM
I must admit, I'm staggered at the success a lot of RPG related stuff is having on Kickstarter. It amazes me that there's enthusiasm and cash out there for this stuff seeing as though every 2nd Tuesday there's an "RPGs are DEAD! Dead I tell you... we're all screwed!" post on various forums. Guess it just shows a further shift from traditional brick and mortar stores to online purchasing.

daniel_ream

#6
April 27, 2012, 03:22:02 PM
Having seen the absolutely ludicrous prices people will pay for things at cons, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.  I do think it's more evidence for "the RPG industry is dead", though.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr

Runeward

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May 27, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: APN;534511I must admit, I'm staggered at the success a lot of RPG related stuff is having on Kickstarter. It amazes me that there's enthusiasm and cash out there for this stuff seeing as though every 2nd Tuesday there's an "RPGs are DEAD! Dead I tell you... we're all screwed!" post on various forums. Guess it just shows a further shift from traditional brick and mortar stores to online purchasing.

I think Kickstarter is huge evidence that it isn't dead. I think it is evidence that people were really angry at the handful of big guys and that now niche projects can be created and disseminated to their respective audiences. That's a really cool thing.

Monte Cook had an article on this same topic in the last week.

Sacrosanct

#8
May 27, 2012, 08:51:36 PM
Yeah, he had a huge success, but at the cost of pissing off A LOT of retailers.  Before he launched his Kickstarter, he had stores doing preorders for the game.  Then he announced his Kickstarter and all of those preorders got canceled as they switched to Kickstarter.  Then to make it worse, he offered retailers a 20% discount if they still wanted to stock it.

I don't know how many of you know about game store profits, but a 20% discount = losing money for the store owners.

So yeah, he torqued off a lot of people.  People who essentially drummed up interest in the game thinking they were going to be selling it, only to have it yanked out from underneath them.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Runeward

#9
May 28, 2012, 11:40:20 AM
That I had not heard and I guess it changes perspective. It'd be interesting to see the breakdown of sales from direct online versus brick and mortar. I think Kickstarter might be another kick in the gut to FLGS just like Amazon.
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