Quote from: Peregrin;494705Have you played any of the civil war missions?  I've easily had 10-15 Stormcloaks on screen and 5-6 of those rushing me at once.

All that plus my own allies.

There may be some fight, somewhere, where there is a mob, but the vast majority of the game is nowhere near that. I mean, c'mon, why not have half a dozen rats at some point? I think the most I've seen at once is 3, with another nearby, and my character is like 58th level.

I'm replaying now as a mage...man, it's amazing how magic has sucked so hard over every game in the series. I find my new character slowly evolving into my old character (stealth/archery...old character started as 1H melee, but archery is just too necessary, and I don't have the discipline not to abuse stealth), even as I piss away more and more points into trying to be a semi-capable mage.

OK, I really like Skyrim. The wife got it for me for the holiday.

Killed one Bloody Dragon, now every time I meet one, I start wounding them, and they fly off... Archery ftw!

The Dragon I killed... It killed two town guards under mysterious circumstances. They were left toguard the remains after it was stripped to bones. They died, then the dragon bones at the Western tower of Whitehall vanished (unlike the other beast and people corpses that litter the landscape).

Had some troubles with the ice troll on the mountain pass to High Hrothgar as well. Being fifth level, I couldn't killed it, and it would kill me with like two hits even though I had a companion with me (Lydia). Eventually ran past it to get up to the Grey Beards, and then on the way back as well. When I was 6th level I returned and killed it... finally!

Bloody Dragons! Quit flying away and well... fight!

There is a shout you can learn that forces dragons to land. You'll find it as you progress through the main quest.

Ive taken to tracking dragons to the dragon perches of late, word seems to have gotten around the dragon community that this new dovahkiin isnt to be messed with so i rarely see them whilst exploring and they seem to have given up on the towns, the upside to this is you get extra loot from the chest thats normally somewhere near the shout wall.

So, how difficult is this game for you guys? I do a lot of backpetaling, saving, and dying. I'm level 11 with level 40 destruction and conjuration, and ok restoration. Most of my other stuff is crappy.

I found bits to be a bit over the top, but I simply started taking a companion along for the stuff I found difficult and it all got better. Once I cracked 20, everything started working out. Getting the Lord Stone "blessing"  (+50 Armor and +25% magic resist) helped me out in the early stages.

Quote from: Cranewings;498717So, how difficult is this game for you guys? I do a lot of backpetaling, saving, and dying. I'm level 11 with level 40 destruction and conjuration, and ok restoration. Most of my other stuff is crappy.

Magic is extraordinarily feeble in this game (as it is in all Elder Scrolls games). Magic is great for supplementing stabbing things in the face, but, by itself, isn't so good.

You need all your magic just for the killing, which means you've no magic left over for all the great ways magic supplements everything else. I'm on my second time through with a destruction mage--you need the perk that stuns (you can get it at skill 40), and that will help MUCH. You're still going to need a bow, until you can finally stack enough reduced casting cost items together that you can seriously start to kill things just with spells.

If you are going to be a mage, use one of the many Destruction mods to make it worthwhile.

Quote from: Cranewings;498717So, how difficult is this game for you guys? I do a lot of backpetaling, saving, and dying. I'm level 11 with level 40 destruction and conjuration, and ok restoration. Most of my other stuff is crappy.

Not too difficult here... of course I have it set on Adept difficulty level. Level 9 now. I take it easy and mostly clear out an area as I get to it. Managed to kill two more Dragons, but one had so many HP it took like four or five tries before I got it right. There was some cool death scenes with that. My boy was watching once when the dragon nearly swallowed me whole. The Dragon then shook me like a rag doll, and spit me out onto the snow. I was dead of course...

Going to a distant unknown AREA or dungeon seems like a high risk proposition, so slowly working out from the main quest areas has worked well... with few mishaps.

Currently I can't kill Ice Wraiths yet. Two tries left me dead there, and in one, I hadn't saved the game for an hour or so... And the Giants are around, But I haven't seen one yet.

If I had to guess at the main quest line, I would say right now that the Imperials are the Dragons, or can shapechange into dragons, But I haven't made it to Winterhold yet, I'm currently in Dawnstar, on my way to the mages college in Winterhold, then South to Windhelm to chat with Ulric Stormcloak who undoubtedly knows a few shouts of his own he might be willing to share.

Every time I kill a dragon, I find some kind of Imperial armor???... And the Wizard of Whiterun, I don't trust him a bit... he seems very dragonlike. Giving the Dragonstone to him was a bad idea...

Anyone else notice the meteor shower that rained destruction from the heavens when the big black dragon attacked in the opening sequence? I'm working at making fire resist potions.

Alright, I'm glad I went wizard. I'm level 20 and have maybe three skill points not in conjuration, destruction, or restoration. I'm level 55 or so in the two attacking schools of magic.

Just a few minutes ago I obliterated a dragon. During the fight a random sabertooth jumped on me which I oneshotted with a two hand chain lightning. He then became my minion along with a fire spirit and familiar. While they kept the dragon busy I chain lightninged the shit out of it.

It was amazing.

I just found some rails and it pisses me off. I'm the god damned archmage. I go to a town run by a thieves guild. I get in with them enough to be let into their layer. Then, when we are done talking, I decided the archmage doesn't take jobs from thieves, so I attack them. I crush their entire group with twin cast lightning cloak and a couple dozen fireballs, but guess what: they can't die. If you get them to zero life, they just sit there for a minute, act hurt, and then get back up with full health.

I love killing assholes in this game, so why are these assholes safe on the train? I wouldn't mind so much if a screen popped up and said, "Gee, don't kill these guys. We need them later." Instead, they just become magically deathless, which takes me 10 minutes to figure out.

Whatever.

I couldn't do any of the Thieves Guild quests, the whole thing with Brynjolf getting you to frame that dark elf was bugged to fuck.

I really don't understand how people continue to heap praise on games that have huge glaring problems like this.

Skyrim is big, ergo it must be great.

I'm level 21. My biggest skills are Archery(53), Sneaking(52), Enchantment(55), Destruction(45). I typically wear Elven armor(helm, armor, bracers, boots) all enchanted. I tend to enchant everything that I end up wearing. For example my Elven Helm has Fortify Archery on it and I have 2 Elven Bracers, one Enchanted for Archery, the other one to increase my Magic. My Elven boots are enchanted to increase my Carry. Plus I have several other items(necklaces, amulets, rings) enchanted to do different things(sneak, carry, magic increase, etc.) that I switch out depending on what I'm doing. I haven't gotten too far on the main quest but I've done the primary Mage Guild quest and several side missions. I think I've cleared about 20 dungeons.

I use my bow for when targets are distant(duh) and switch to magic at close up, except for fighting Dragon Priests. I've fought 2 Dragon Priests, right before a fight with them(usually after I've died the first go around with them), I use my magic to buff myself up, i.e. increase my Magic and Health for 60 seconds and then I switch to using dual staffs. My favorite staffs for this are a Staff of Fireballs and another named Staff(can't remember the name) that does 25 Health and twice amount of to target's Magic). That usually takes them down.

I kept dying a lot until I started getting into the habit of watching my Health and when it gets low I go into my Items and eat a bunch of Food or drink Potions. I've learned to keep lots of food and to look for potions to pick up everywhere. So, now I don't die as much, unless something hits me with a big Health attack, like a Giant or something.

For Magic, I bought every spell that the Wizard in Whiterun has and I have several shouts now. I need to finish a couple of side quests and then get back onto the main plot quest, last thing I did for that was to go visit the Greybeards.

I only own one house but after I finish a couple of quests and go on the next part of the main plot then I'm going to go work on a couple of Jarl quests so I can buy another couple of houses.

Overall, I like it, probably the best Computer RPG I've played in a long time simply because of the open ended play style. You can go on quests or you can even just wander around finding things. I've found several things that aren't on any of the maps in the game and that don't show up as side quests(at least not so far) so there seems to be a lot to do. I haven't done the Thieves Guild yet but I watched my son go through part of it on his profile and want to go through it on my own, I'll just have to remember to leave Lydia behind for that one.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;499390I couldn't do any of the Thieves Guild quests, the whole thing with Brynjolf getting you to frame that dark elf was bugged to fuck.

I really don't understand how people continue to heap praise on games that have huge glaring problems like this.

Skyrim is big, ergo it must be great.

I haven't run into any bugs like that. Do you play on PC or a console? I play it on the xBox 360 and have loaded all the current patches so it runs good. There are still a couple of cheesy exploits(Dawnstar Invisible Chest and the respawning Oblivion book thingy) but they aren't bugs that stop game play. From what I've read on the Net, the people that complain mostly about Bugs are on PC.

the thieves guild quest isnt bugged you can fail it and still get into the guild, if the quest guy isnt moving to the pub thats a glitch but even thats workable with abit of faffing about(check the elder scrolls wiki it will tell you how), yeah theres a few minor bugs in certain quests but alot can actually be worked around.