Quote from: Will;796504Cock flarging quimmonkeys!

Ok, just getting that out of the way.

Premier:
My thesis is that 'anti-GG' isn't a coherent 'side,' because it's not FOR anything, any more than 'non-Christian' is a coherent group.

Your thesis is incorrect. There is active conflict between GG and others, the others may not be a "coherent group" (but then again neither is GG), but they are united in all being anti-GG.

If there is conflict there are at least 2 sides. If one side is #GG, then the other is anti-GG, whether or not they are coherent groups. One side is "united" and identifies as pro-GG, the other as anti.
 

Quote from: Will;7965754chan is involved in #gamergate, and if there WAS a link it'd set off another stupid horrible round.

And I mean exactly what I say. I hope there is no connection. I'm hoping 'random shit heads getting their rocks off talking a lot of shit' is all the threat of GG and similar amount to.

Gamers don't need an Elliot Rodger.

As for 'sudden interest,' it came up on my feed.

Anyone can post anything to 4chan (not that it won't get modded). If your first thought on reading that is "gamergate" rather than "sick fuck of a murderer", you need to take a couple steps back and re-examine your cognitive filters because your perceptions and judgement are being seriously distorted.

Check your anti-GG privilege, as it were.

My first thought was '4chan? The hell?'

Even if the story about posting is absolutely true, I don't in any way think Gamergate is responsible for a crazy person murdering his girlfriend.

I said what I meant, I meant what I said. If you are wondering what my real motive is, I wrote it.

Quote from: Will;796614My first thought was '4chan? The hell?'

Even if the story about posting is absolutely true, I don't in any way think Gamergate is responsible for a crazy person murdering his girlfriend.

I said what I meant, I meant what I said. If you are wondering what my real motive is, I wrote it.

(ok, already breaking my word, but this deserves a response)

Um, no, Will - you don't just drop a "random" "news" "story" into a thread about GG unless you're trying to imply something. It'd be like me dropping a story into the thread about, oh, I dunno, Rose McGowan saying that gay men are misogynists.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rose-mcgowan-attacks-lgbt-community-for-failing-to-campaign-for-feminism-gay-men-are-more-misogynistic-than-straight-men-9841873.html

10 Print "Will: I am not trying to imply anything."
20 Print "Werekoala: You are trying to imply something."
30 Goto 10


What about my behavior in this thread suggests to you, Werekoala, that I'd restrain myself to IMPLYING a connection if I thought there was one?

Careful, chummer. You get much closer to the point, you might put your eye out,.

Quote from: Will;79662210 Print "Will: I am not trying to imply anything."
20 Print "Werekoala: You are trying to imply something."
30 Goto 10


What about my behavior in this thread suggests to you, Werekoala, that I'd restrain myself to IMPLYING a connection if I thought there was one?

Were I in the know on the topic, I would determine judgement based on your pattern of public behavior(s)

I spoke from personal experience a plenty, as it relates to observing such conduct

Ah, wait, here we go. This might shed some light on the random news story posted by Will:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUJ3zm3C1Q&list=UUxXUQuvoiIAlpM2osoAitjQ

Brianna Wu trying to tie GG to this incident and her "threats"...

Yeah... means nothing, I'm sure.

Will - you're a cunt.

Is there any fucking low that Brianna Wu and her ilk wouldn't go?  I don't even know why people defend them because they are lower than fucking scum.

Quote from: Snowman0147;796630Is there any fucking low that Brianna Wu and her ilk wouldn't go?  I don't even know why people defend them because they are lower than fucking scum.

Ah, now - you know WE are the fucking scum... get with the program, Frosty.

Still, if they're lower than fucking scum, then I guess you might have a point...

Quote from: Will;796564http://m.kirotv.com/news/news/deputies-investigating-apparent-homicide-port-orch/nhzT6/

Holy crap.

Hopefully the 4chan connection doesn't amount to much.

JEsusfuck man. SERIOUSLY? Seriously, I thought you had your head up your ass in this argument, granted, but didn't really hold it against you as a person. I mean, its just a stupid debate about some online drama.

But this? This is low. You reallyreally should feel ashamed of yourself. Using a human tragedy like this. I don't have the words. Seriously, bad show. I mean, I am not the nicest person at the best of times, I can be an asshole as much as anyone on this site, and admittedly my life has made me a bit more callous that most people could probably understand. But there's a LINE, just of basic human decency.




I don't think I'll be posting in this thread anymore.



Edit: oh look, and apparently Brianna Wu is doing the same thing. Classy. A class act all around.

I hope somebody spits in her coffee.

Quote from: Snowman0147;796630Is there any fucking low that Brianna Wu and her ilk wouldn't go?  I don't even know why people defend them because they are lower than fucking scum.

The people who defend them are often people who share their values.  They buy into a grand narrative of social justice, of an obligation to act on everyones behalf to advance the causes of minorities and victims.  With such a weighty goal in mind, things such as 'ethics' and 'long term consequences' fall to the wayside.

It's very similar to how some misguided Christian zealots consider peoples' souls to be of such overriding importance that they disown their children over their sexual preferences or cover up pedophilia to allow the pedophiles a better environment for spiritual growth.

Quote from: TristramEvans;796639I don't think I'll be posting in this thread anymore.

It's pretty disgusting, yeah, but why drive yourself forth when you can press the mute button?

Quote from: Alathon;796640It's pretty disgusting, yeah, but why drive yourself forth when you can press the mute button?

honestly, after that I just need a break. I work hard (10 hour days) and  when I come home and sit in bed with my laptop and pull up this site on one of 5 or 6 tabs I've got going on, its to enjoy myself with some talk about RPGs, or, to be perfectly honest, some debate. I like debating. I totally cop to that. Its an enjoyable passtime for me. Maybe to some people that makes me a bit of a dick, but I think here on theRPGsite, that just means I'm one of the crowd.


But coming home to find THAT post? Its obvious implications wrapped in world-class bullshit? Sorry to say but I was shocked. It takes a lot to shock me but honestly I'm offended. And I don't ever get offended. Like I cant remember the last time in my life anything actually offended me.

 And I still believe that being offended is just an emotional reaction and that people are responsible for thier own emotional reactions and it's not okay to put the responsibility for that on others. So this is how I'm taking responsibility for myself; just going to quit the conversation. Go do something that washes the bad taste out of my mind.

Quote from: Will;796564http://m.kirotv.com/news/news/deputies-investigating-apparent-homicide-port-orch/nhzT6/

Holy crap.

Hopefully the 4chan connection doesn't amount to much.

Bit of a stretch. 4chan is a huge website, there are going to be plenty of bad people there, just through the law of averages (I mean, this site is tiny, but we've had at least one paedophile post here regularly for a while). I'd bet money on him not being the first criminal, or even the first murderer, to have posted on 4chan; putting pictures up may be new, but it was bound to happen anyway as communication tech advances.

I understand how tabloid media tends to freak out ("His friend's cousin once heard someone tell a summary of a review of the latest Marilyn Manson album, so it's all Doom's fault"), but that flap is bound to happen about something anyway, the Wheel of Blame never gets to rest for long.

I apologize in advance if this was already posted here, but this article does sum up my opinion on GamerGate perfectly: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2lf8oa/to_redditors_who_are_in_good_faith_on_the_fence/

Quote from: Will;796614My first thought was '4chan? The hell?'

Even if the story about posting is absolutely true, I don't in any way think Gamergate is responsible for a crazy person murdering his girlfriend.

I said what I meant, I meant what I said. If you are wondering what my real motive is, I wrote it.

Then why did you post it in this thread?
If the bolded is correct, then there is no connection at all between that link and this topic.

EDIT:
As I do not like to read about gruesome things, I have not read the thing in the link.