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Most interesting thing about #gamergate: the #notyourshield protests

Started by Shipyard Locked, October 08, 2014, 12:16:06 PM

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S'mon

#945
November 05, 2014, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Will;796321And hey, Black Panthers got flack for the actions of some of their members.
Go figure.

Killing lots (and lots) of people can occasionally elicit criticism. From what I can tell the Black Panthers received a lot less criticism (and less publicity) than killing lots of people would usually warrant. I get the impression this was probably a political decision by US state & federal governments, and the US media, out of fear that giving their activities proper coverage would likely incite a race war - a war the Panthers presumably wanted.

Ladybird

#946
November 05, 2014, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: Will;796504And let's be clear, if that Nick Denton Facebook thing was actually _real_, I would be quite happily and loudly denouncing him. (And as it is, I already think he's kind of a dick and untrustworthy)

I was kinda hoping we'd have seen some independent confirmation of that, either way, by now.

If we really must "pick sides" (Because what the fuck is this, are we all twelve, is this schoolyard football, well I guess the goalposts are already moving all over the place...), then I'm against people who send death threats, I'm against people who feel videogames should only be for them and only be limited to things they want to play, I'm against anyone standing in the way of videogames becoming what they should be (Which is the best and most versatile artform in the world, bar none), and I'm against the games media being funded by the major publishers that it claims to report on.
one two FUCK YOU

woodsmoke

#947
November 05, 2014, 07:40:31 PM
Quote from: Ladybird;796525I was kinda hoping we'd have seen some independent confirmation of that, either way, by now.

Yeah, on further reflection I'm not convinced there's enough info there to verify anything, so I'm filing it as "bunk until proven otherwise."
The more I learn, the less I know.

James Gillen

#948
November 05, 2014, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: Ladybird;796384It's also possible that (Denton's FB post is) a work, that there were no such infiltrators at any point, and it's just designed to spread fear and doubt amongst GG-er ranks. Because seriously, unless he is an idiot,

This is Gawker.  Why are you assuming he isn't?

QuoteSo yeah, fuck 'em (And on a side note, fuck the people who are giving gamers a bad name, by both accusing them of being bad people and by being bad people in their name. We all know the majority of gamers are fundamentally decent people, who just want more games and more people to enjoy them.).

Amen to that.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
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Shipyard Locked

#949
November 05, 2014, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: Will;796335Snowman, I keep overlooking the divider between text and sig, which sometimes makes your posts HILARIOUS.

Ship astroturfers by roc!

Yeah, that juxtaposition is pretty good. :cool:

Will

#950
November 05, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
http://m.kirotv.com/news/news/deputies-investigating-apparent-homicide-port-orch/nhzT6/

Holy crap.

Hopefully the 4chan connection doesn't amount to much.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.

Piestrio

#951
November 05, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: Will;796564http://m.kirotv.com/news/news/deputies-investigating-apparent-homicide-port-orch/nhzT6/

Holy crap.

Hopefully the 4chan connection doesn't amount to much.

Some people are sickos.

What does that have to do with #gamergate?
Disclaimer: I attach no moral weight to the way you choose to pretend to be an elf.

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Currently Playing: AD&D

Werekoala

#952
November 05, 2014, 08:57:31 PM
Quote from: Will;796564http://m.kirotv.com/news/news/deputies-investigating-apparent-homicide-port-orch/nhzT6/

Holy crap.

Hopefully the 4chan connection doesn't amount to much.

Yeah, 'cause I'm sure you're totally into the 4Chan experience.

Not that I am - never been there, not even 8Chan, and have no interest in visiting either site, but your sudden "concern" strikes me as beyond disingenuous, especially since you decided to bring it up in a thread that has nothing to do with either site.
Lan Astaslem


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Will

#953
November 05, 2014, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Piestrio;796567Some people are sickos.

What does that have to do with #gamergate?

4chan is involved in #gamergate, and if there WAS a link it'd set off another stupid horrible round.

And I mean exactly what I say. I hope there is no connection. I'm hoping 'random shit heads getting their rocks off talking a lot of shit' is all the threat of GG and similar amount to.

Gamers don't need an Elliot Rodger.

As for 'sudden interest,' it came up on my feed.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.

Piestrio

#954
November 05, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Will;7965754chan is involved in #gamergate, and if there WAS a link it'd set off another stupid horrible round.

As far as I'm aware 4chan banned all discussion of "gamergate"

Hence the creation of 8chan.
Disclaimer: I attach no moral weight to the way you choose to pretend to be an elf.

Currently running: The Great Pendragon Campaign & DC Adventures - Timberline
Currently Playing: AD&D

Werekoala

#955
November 05, 2014, 09:25:55 PM
Quote from: Will;7965754chan is involved in #gamergate, and if there WAS a link it'd set off another stupid horrible round.

Ok, game over dude.

White people are involved in GamerGate.
Women are involved in GamerGate.
Lesbians are involved in GamerGate.
Furries are involved in GamerGate.
Headmates are involved in GamerGate.
Minorities are involved in GamerGate.
Liberals are involved in GamgerGate.
Conservatives are involved in GamerGate.

4Chan is involved in GamerGate - sure, why not?

But some sick fuck posts pics of an alleged murder to 4Chan, and all of a sudden you're "CONCERENED" that it might be tied to GamerGate?

Fuck. You. I'm done with you, and I know that breaks your heart, but I'm sure you'll get over it.
Lan Astaslem


"It's rpg.net The population there would call the Second Coming of Jesus Christ a hate crime." - thedungeondelver

Will

#956
November 05, 2014, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: Werekoala;796580But some sick fuck posts pics of an alleged murder to 4Chan, and all of a sudden you're "CONCERENED" that it might be tied to GamerGate?

Fuck. You. I'm done with you, and I know that breaks your heart, but I'm sure you'll get over it.

Aren't you? Pop out your conservative party dance mix for a moment and think about it.

How good do you think it'd be if the public at large was thinking 'hey, maybe videogames and internet fads can lead someone to murders for entertainment'?

It doesn't matter what 'side' you think you are on.

Stop fixating on explaining away people who think differently than you do and look at the big picture.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.

Will

#957
November 05, 2014, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Piestrio;796579As far as I'm aware 4chan banned all discussion of "gamergate"

Hence the creation of 8chan.

Ah, ok, I didn't realize that.
So the link is more tenuous than I thought.

(I was going to add 'good' but that's selfish of me, considering a woman's been murdered)
This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.

AmazingOnionMan

#958
November 05, 2014, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: Will;796585Ah, ok, I didn't realize that.

You mean you didn't know. You just assumed.
And that's the problem with this clusterfuck, everybody - on both sides and in the excluded middle - assumes too much.
And, as everybody should know, assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.

deMonica

#959
November 05, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
Quote from: Will;796585Ah, ok, I didn't realize that.
So the link is more tenuous than I thought.

(I was going to add 'good' but that's selfish of me, considering a woman's been murdered)

This is one of two things:

#1 Opportunistic scapegoating of a perceived enemy. I've watched these people tag the villain of the month w/any exploitable tragedy that happens to occur during the period of said conflict. The Anti element already tried to pin the Parliament shooting in Canada on GG and 'toxic masculinity'. Every degenerate carpetbaggering faction rushed out to point to their adversary. This repeating occurrence is probably one of the most distasteful tactics that I've ever been witness to.

...and it SCREAMS ill intent

#2  Rinse & repeat bumble:

80's: "Satanism!"
90's: "Video games cause violence!"
Now: 360degree "misogyny!"

Honest & aware parties will take note of how often an offense is seen & uttered. If you repeatedly find yourself standing at the center of an all encompassing X, you should take into consideration where all angles lead.
Patterns & common denominators matter, to all but those devoid of the needed awareness, but more often those that stand to gain by dismissing them.
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