Quote from: Alathon;795451Perhaps she had perspective that you don't.

I guess I was unclear.

When she presented as woman she was constantly belittled, harassed, and found getting a job 10x as hard and realized how much privilege had blinded her to things.

She is, however, either fatalistic or resigned or has other things that occupy her. She only mentions this and transphobic stuff (like being physically assaulted) when people say these things don't happen. At which point she says 'uh, yes, they do, actually.'

Quote from: Werekoala;795447#shouldhavesentapoet

Hmmm, let me give this a try...

What's he that wishes so?
My cousin, Westkoalaland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die (yet again), we are enow
To do our conscience loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
Jenova's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Kratos, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from Gaming.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westkoalaland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Aeris.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Aeris.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say "To-morrow is Saint Aeris."
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say "These wounds I had on Aeris' day."
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Alucard, Drake and Dante,
Wedge and Biggs, Leon and Claire-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Aeris Gainsborough shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in Gaming Journalism now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their Trophies cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Aeris' day.

(Note: I actually tried to gender neutral all the gender pronouns, and gave up. The speech is fucking ruined trying to "he/she" it.)

Quote from: Snowman0147;795453In fact lets players will eventually replace gaming sites because the vast majority don't shove down their political agenda down peoples' throats.  They actually love the games they are playing which builds up excitement.  Most important is if one lets player begins to fuck up people will do what the free market does.  Ditch him/her and go for a better lets player.

"Let's Play"-er's also have a huge advantage, IMO; they're honestly engaged and enthusiastic about what they're reviewing.

One of the things I was honestly surprised about, was the level of disgust and contempt that a lot of Gaming Journalism held their readership in. I can't imagine going to work, and holding the people your supposed to be representing in such utter contempt (and I've worked for the Federal Gov't!). Holding onto that much anger and vitriol, day to day, can't be good for your health.

Quote from: Herr Arnulfe;795330But gender feminists' ultimate goal is gender equality, not women's supremacy.

Thier ultimate goal is censorship.They can wrap it in any terms they like, make any ethical arguments for it they like, or obfuscate it by playing that there is some wonderful outcome to it they like, but it still comes down to censorship. "I have the moral right or duty to judge, control, and edit what other people are allowed to read, see, think, or say, for thier own good."

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;795379Mark "Neuroatypicals" Read

Who is he? (my googlefu is failing on "mark read" + "gamergate") Links appreciated.

"All animals are equal; but some animals are more equal than others.", if I'm paraphrasing Animal Farm correctly.

Quote from: TristramEvans;795461Who is he? (my googlefu is failing on "mark read" + "gamergate") Links appreciated.

Max Read, an editor at Gawker, IIRC. (EDIT: Editor-in-Chief)
The quote is from his Twitter, and he penned the "Intel is run by craven morons" piece, for Gawker.

EDIT: Neurotypical insult
EDIT 2: How we got rolled by the dishonest Facists of GamerGate

EDIT 4: Gawker is "re-assigning" Sam "Bring Back Bullying" Biddle, after "giving" him a month long paid sabbatical. Heh.

Quote from: Novastar;795457(Note: I actually tried to gender neutral all the gender pronouns, and gave up. The speech is fucking ruined trying to "he/she" it.)

I've recently gotten on board with using 'they,' after some grammarians point out that Shakespeare used they as a neutral singular and there is some canonical support for the idea.

Quote from: Will;795442Actually, most of them have a sort of resigned 'what can you do?' vibe.

They even are mostly resigned to the fact that men look for excuses or try to minimize it, like 'oh it's surely not that bad...' "K, whatever."

One of the more amusing examples was a trans woman who I've known for a long time. When she presented as male, she ... pretty much thought like most men. It's bad, sure, but it's surely not something you'd have to deal with constantly.

Welp. Yeah.

She's pretty blase' about it, and has only volunteered it when the rest of us get talking about experiences or sexism or politics (ugh).

I have a conservative friend who mentioned how he's glad there's little/no sexism at Microsoft, and my wife, who also worked at Microsoft... well, it was on FB so she didn't literally laugh in his face, but in another venue she would have.


The bitch of it is that most women don't talk about this because it's such a daily element of their lives and men constantly get defensive and say it's not THAT bad.

I love the "My anecdotal evidence obviously depicts the true state of affairs while yours is clearly biased or the product of poor misinformed individuals." response.

Quote from: Novastar;795463EDIT: Neurotypical insult

Weird, I'm not sure he understands what that term means.

Quote from: TristramEvans;795459Thier ultimate goal is censorship.They can wrap it in any terms they like, make any ethical arguments for it they like, or obfuscate it by playing that there is some wonderful outcome to it they like, but it still comes down to censorship. "I have the moral right or duty to judge, control, and edit what other people are allowed to read, see, think, or say, for thier own good."

Here's a mission for you: post a recent feminist call for censorship in any media besides pornography. If censorship is their ultimate goal, they're being awfully quiet about it. The vast majority of gender feminists are content to make men contemplate (and feel bad about) their misogynistic impulses. Which is a good thing IMO because not enough misogynists feel bad on their own initiative.

Similarly, the vast majority of gender feminists would be content to achieve gender equality. Misandrists and female supremacists are by far in the minority. You won't find any published definition of the term "gender feminist" that includes censorship or female supremacy.

I'm sure many gender feminists have personal ambitions that are tied up with their ideology, just like we all do.

Quote from: Novastar;795436Ok, I'll admit I didn't see this coming...http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/857/658/cfc.jpg

Suey Park, the creator of #CancelColbert, calls out Anita Sarkeesian (who signal boosted #CC) for appearing on The Colbert Report.

Never thought I'd say this either, but I actually agree with Zoe Quinn:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/857/603/033.jpg

The OPPRESSION OLYMPICS have begun!!!

Khaleesi Of SJWs, huh?
At least she's modest.

But yeah, that's why these movements don't have as much follow-through as they potentially could: The contemporary Left could teach Stalin some lessons on eating your own.  

JG

Quote from: woodsmoke;795441It's quite possibly my favorite beer, both because the branding brings joy to my pitted black heart and because it's just damn good. I dream of the day the state churchislature stops being stupid and I can actually buy some in Utah. Though it's far more likely I'll simply have to consign myself to occasional out-of-state trips to pick some up.

"Churchislature" is my new favorite word.  

JG

Quote from: Herr Arnulfe;795473Here's a mission for you: post a recent feminist call for censorship in any media besides pornography. If censorship is their ultimate goal, they're being awfully quiet about it. The vast majority of gender feminists are content to make men contemplate (and feel bad about) their misogynistic impulses. Which is a good thing IMO because not enough misogynists feel bad on their own initiative.

One side is saying "You're a slut."  The other side says "You're a REALLY, REALLY bad person for thinking that."  And it's easy to see how the one side has been able to push more, because the kind of man who would tell complete strangers "You're a slut" is not the kind of man who would really care if the other person tells him "You're a really, really bad person for thinking that."

JG

Quote from: James Gillen;795474Khaleesi Of SJWs, huh?
At least she's modest.

But yeah, that's why these movements don't have as much follow-through as they potentially could: The contemporary Left could teach Stalin some lessons on eating your own.  

JG

Ha! But really doesn't claiming a title like Social Justice Warrior automatically disqualify someone from being "modest".