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Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on March 23, 2012, 04:10:50 PM
Videos of game play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HnTeQFBIq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep97ba_uWXM

The blog/home page:

http://www.grimrock.net/

This is releasing in April, apparently.

:cool:
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: The Butcher on March 24, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0tdj9xlKw1qij3bco2_500.jpg)
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on March 24, 2012, 04:00:48 PM
I no rite? :D

This is going to be epic.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on March 24, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;523683(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0tdj9xlKw1qij3bco2_500.jpg)
Yes, please. All of it.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: The Butcher on March 24, 2012, 04:18:55 PM
OSR: Not just for tabletop gaming anymore.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on March 24, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;523690OSR: Not just for tabletop gaming anymore.
Man, I still have a notebook filled to the brim with the maps I made while playing all those games. Beautiful, detailed maps, 1 square = 1 step, hours and hours poured onto them. This game is like my childhood in 3 minutes :D
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on March 24, 2012, 08:23:01 PM
Man, do I share the feeling. There's nothing quite like playing a good dungeon crawl computer game alone in the dark. It's awesome. I really can't wait for this game to come out. And I have not bought a PC game for like, fucking ages now.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imp on March 24, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
Yes, I have been looking expectantly at this one!

It will get my money before Diablo III does.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on March 25, 2012, 04:46:21 AM
Quote from: Benoist;523709Man, do I share the feeling. There's nothing quite like playing a good dungeon crawl computer game alone in the dark. It's awesome. I really can't wait for this game to come out. And I have not bought a PC game for like, fucking ages now.

I'm heavily into PC gaming and my opinion is pretty well shown here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw

So, I'm pretty happy about this game.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: The Butcher on March 25, 2012, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: Imperator;523774I'm heavily into PC gaming and my opinion is pretty well shown here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw

So, I'm pretty happy about this game.

The video is spot-on, nad to make it worse, it's got me hankering for some old school FPS action. I'm off to find download link or torrent for Ye Olde Doom, but if anyone's got a good FPS to recommend, with little or no bullshit cutscenes or railroading, I'll be happy to give the PC game industry a bit more money.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Rincewind1 on March 25, 2012, 12:57:16 PM
Operation Flashpoint and the continuations. Only FPS I ever bothered with.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on March 25, 2012, 01:05:06 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;523808The video is spot-on, nad to make it worse, it's got me hankering for some old school FPS action. I'm off to find download link or torrent for Ye Olde Doom, but if anyone's got a good FPS to recommend, with little or no bullshit cutscenes or railroading, I'll be happy to give the PC game industry a bit more money.

Try this:

http://www.gog.com/
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Melan on March 25, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
Quote from: Imperator;523774I'm heavily into PC gaming and my opinion is pretty well shown here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw
The video exaggerates, but it makes a valid point. Read this discussion on FPS map design (http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=412422) and the arguments people bring up. Do they sound familiar? :cool:
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Rincewind1 on March 25, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: Melan;523822The video exaggerates, but it makes a valid point. Read this discussion on FPS map design (http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=412422) and the arguments people bring up. Do they sound familiar? :cool:

Too familiar.

I am not too much for the "maze design" of FPS to be honest - because they make me nauseous (I mean really, they do. I can't play an FPS for longer then hour - two, because I feel like vomiting. No idea why's that. Probably rapid camera movement). I prefer open spaces when freedom's involved. Though I admit that alongside OF, I did finish all Half - Life 2 stuff and loved the game.

I played a fair bit of ADOM, but other then that, never was too big for dungeon crawling, PnP or PC - they just feel boring to me. I prefer investigations, generally - both of people, and of places.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on March 25, 2012, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: Melan;523822The video exaggerates, but it makes a valid point. Read this discussion on FPS map design (http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=412422) and the arguments people bring up. Do they sound familiar? :cool:

Too familiar :(
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on March 25, 2012, 11:47:27 PM
Quote from: Melan;523822The video exaggerates, but it makes a valid point. Read this discussion on FPS map design (http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=412422) and the arguments people bring up. Do they sound familiar? :cool:

LOL One of these guys says the Silent Cartographer (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/The_Silent_Cartographer) is bad level design! OMG.
Get the fuck out.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Peregrin on March 26, 2012, 12:25:12 AM
Stealin' mah threads. :P

And nah, Cartographer was one of the best maps.  Can't give the same praise to the second half of the game, though...

Also, for those on the fence, give in to PC game superiority.  Less lowest common denominator console design BS.  Seriously, health-regen is anti-immersive.  ;)
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on March 26, 2012, 12:59:48 AM
Depends if you're a Spartan. Then it's your Shields that replenish themselves. Not your Health. Immersion not damaged. ;)
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on March 26, 2012, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: Peregrin;523878And nah, Cartographer was one of the best maps.  Can't give the same praise to the second half of the game, though...

BTW Have you tried the Library on Legendary? Now that's some repetitive suicide bullshit right there.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Ladybird on March 26, 2012, 02:42:04 AM
Quote from: Imperator;523817Try this:

http://www.gog.com/

Doom's not on GoG, but it is on Steam (http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Steam), although for modern computers you should use one of the source ports rather than using the default executable (Plus there are modern maps designed to take advantage of the source port's upgrades).

On another note, there have been a few dungeon crawlers of this style on the handhelds recently - the Etrian Odyssey series on DS, for example, is one I think you'd really enjoy. You have to build your own map of the game world, using the touch screen.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imp on March 26, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
The DS is a really good platform for old-school non-real-time CRPGs in general.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Peregrin on March 26, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: Benoist;523884BTW Have you tried the Library on Legendary? Now that's some repetitive suicide bullshit right there.

It's been a long time since I've played -- I may have at one point with a friend, but I think we may have given up by that point our of frustration.

However, the first half of Halo 1 is some of my favorite FPS gameplay ever.  Especially back then, because a lot of AI in FPSes was horrible around that time, and Halo's was a nice challenge.

Such a love/hate relationship with that game for me...

Quote from: LadybirdOn another note, there have been a few dungeon crawlers of this style on the handhelds recently - the Etrian Odyssey series on DS, for example, is one I think you'd really enjoy. You have to build your own map of the game world, using the touch screen.

Etrian Odyssey is effing haaaard.  And it's more focused on grinding/combat than exploration or puzzles.  Still fun, but in the way grindy games tend to be more meditative/time-sinks.  Asian RPGs are like that for some reason, though.  Cultural stuff.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: The Butcher on April 12, 2012, 09:09:09 AM
So this baby is out (http://store.steampowered.com/app/207170/?snr=1_7_suggest__13). And cheap, too. Anyone got it?

The Steam blurb even mentions an Olde Schoole Mode without automap! How awesome is that!

I'd pick it up right now if I wasn't so engrossed with WoW, of all things. Talk about late to the party...
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: tellius on April 12, 2012, 05:57:11 PM
Wife and I pre-ordered and we played most of last night when I got in from work.

My wife is playing without automap (I didn't see the option in my haste to get in and bashing), she is carefully mapping out on graph paper.

It is all awesome and I love it. The only moment of frustration was that it took me a minute to figure out that you right-click on your weapon/hand to fight/cast spells. But after that, all gold.

I love the tactics that you can use, all the stuff in the environment can be used to your advantage and I can't wait to use different party combo's to see how it all goes.

So for me, definitely well worth the $12 dollars splurge.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 12, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
I haven't bought it yet but will in the next few days for sure.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 13, 2012, 02:12:38 AM
I bought it yesterday, haven't had yet the time to test it.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Melan on April 13, 2012, 02:37:27 AM
I played it late last evening (the new mission (http://www.thedarkmod.com/missiondetails/?id=58) for The Dark Mod enjoyed a priority :D), and it is exactly what it set out to be - an atmospheric, not over-complicated 2.5D dungeon crawling game with modern production values. I went the way of the graph paper because I haven't done that sort of thing in ages, and it's been very entertaining so far - exploring a corridor by the dying embers of your torch, bashing in the heads of skeletons in Roman legionnary gear, and all the classic tricks and traps.

The only criticism I have so far is that the first two levels are very linear - there are branches, but they usually lead either to a key you will need in the other branch, or a closed door where you have to backtrack for that key. I hear this gets better deeper into the dungeon, though.

So far, I am happy.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 14, 2012, 03:42:09 PM
SIGH. Now I have the game but it doesn't launch because of DLL errors. :(
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Melan on April 14, 2012, 03:56:01 PM
Level 3: holyfuckspidersSPIDERSPIDERS!getthemoffmeholyfuck!!!! :eek:
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 14, 2012, 03:58:53 PM
Trying to fix my DirectX right now.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Rincewind1 on April 14, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: Benoist;530194Trying to fix my DirectX right now.

Try updating the drivers if that won't help. Just remember to uninstall them first.

.DLL errors are quite often a mark that your machine might not be good enough to run the game, I am afraid :(.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 14, 2012, 05:12:06 PM
The Direct X update did it. I can run the game now. :)
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 14, 2012, 07:46:54 PM
I have played the first level and it runs great. My minotaur warrior is now level 2. Man, it looks great :)
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Peregrin on April 15, 2012, 02:47:42 AM
Liking it so far.  It's nice to play a dungeon-crawler that allows a bit more problem solving, since a lot others tend to devolve into pinging enemies until one of you drops (like the Etrian Odyssey games).
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: tellius on April 15, 2012, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Melan;530190Level 3: holyfuckspidersSPIDERSPIDERS!getthemoffmeholyfuck!!!! :eek:

This! And the rest :)
Loving the puzzles and the freaky stuff when you sleep.

Diseased effect is a pain in the arse but cool too :)

Slowly making my way down the levels, it is still awesomes.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Doom on April 16, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
I do wish there was a 'no real time' option....the whole point I got the thing is it looked turn-based so I could play it on my laptop. I get the feeling once the fights start getting intense I won't be able to control 4 characters simultaneously with enough speed to be amusing.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Melan on April 17, 2012, 01:49:15 AM
I do not think it was ever implied to be turn-based.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 17, 2012, 08:43:18 AM
Quote from: Melan;530883I do not think it was ever implied to be turn-based.

Nope, never. Also, I want to publicly state my eternal hate for those FUCKING UNDEAD LEGIONNAIRES.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Ladybird on April 17, 2012, 08:52:18 AM
Quote from: Doom;530815I do wish there was a 'no real time' option....the whole point I got the thing is it looked turn-based so I could play it on my laptop. I get the feeling once the fights start getting intense I won't be able to control 4 characters simultaneously with enough speed to be amusing.

It's always been real-time; if you can't cope with the combat, set it to easy. That's what the difficulty setting is there for. The main thing with combat, so far, seems to be making sure you're agile enough to avoid counterhits; if you're used to WASD-style controls, though, you should be fine.

Anyway, liking it so far. I got to the Skeleton with the default party and got murdered, then read some threads on the developer forum, revised my tactics, started an all-human party, and started again; I've got to the cells on level 2 now.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Premier on April 17, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Imperator;530962Nope, never. Also, I want to publicly state my eternal hate for those FUCKING UNDEAD LEGIONNAIRES.

Here's a man who hasn't met the spiders yet.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Melan on April 17, 2012, 12:05:53 PM
The spidersssssss!

(http://i.imgur.com/KOWHn.gif)
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 17, 2012, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: Imperator;530962Nope, never. Also, I want to publicly state my eternal hate for those FUCKING UNDEAD LEGIONNAIRES.

*makes note for the Ptolus AD&D game*

:D
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Peregrin on April 17, 2012, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: Melan;531019The spidersssssss!

(http://i.imgur.com/KOWHn.gif)

NOOOOOOOPE.

Just going to pretend nothing was there.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 17, 2012, 05:56:41 PM
OK. Yes. Spiders are super-annoying.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 18, 2012, 02:27:04 AM
Quote from: Premier;531010Here's a man who hasn't met the spiders yet.

Quote from: Melan;531019The spidersssssss!

(http://i.imgur.com/KOWHn.gif)

They look like nasty motherfuckers, indeed.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: tellius on April 18, 2012, 06:20:53 AM
Quote from: Imperator;531219They look like nasty motherfuckers, indeed.

ahhh, opening and shutting doors on the bad guys, my favourite tactic in Grimrock .. specially againsts slimes and ranged bastards when you don't have room to dodge.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 19, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: Imperator;531219They look like nasty motherfuckers, indeed.

One is enough. When they're all over the fucking level, it's a pain in the ass...
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Kaz on April 19, 2012, 02:24:15 PM
I don't have enough antivenom to handle spiders! I have seen just one so far. If there's ever more than one, my merry band of prisoners is royally screwed.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 19, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Sleeping makes you recover from venom, ultimately (you need to wait and be patient while sleeping).
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 19, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: Benoist;531709Sleeping makes you recover from venom, ultimately (you need to wait and be patient while sleeping).

Great to know! I managed to poison my thief with a poison cloud I cast :D
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 19, 2012, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Imperator;531712Great to know! I managed to poison my thief with a poison cloud I cast :D

Ah! That happened to me as well. :D
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Kaz on April 19, 2012, 02:44:39 PM
Really? I assumed if I rested, they would die in their sleep. :(
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 19, 2012, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Kaz;531714Really? I assumed if I rested, they would die in their sleep. :(

The downside is that you're spending time resting, so your adventurers go hungry. I'm running out of supplies right now (starting level 4), but I acquired a damn crossbow.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 19, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Benoist;531724The downside is that you're spending time resting, so your adventurers go hungry. I'm running out of supplies right now (starting level 4), but I acquired a damn crossbow.

Well, for me food has not been a problem yet (level 3), but I would give anything for a missile weapon. I got some arrows, but no bow or crossbow. My thief is getting quite deadly with knifes and stones, but she needs more punch.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: tellius on April 19, 2012, 05:50:30 PM
Quote from: Imperator;531747Well, for me food has not been a problem yet (level 3), but I would give anything for a missile weapon. I got some arrows, but no bow or crossbow. My thief is getting quite deadly with knifes and stones, but she needs more punch.

Plenty of food on level 5, crabs on level 5 though, so more sleepings!
Sleep will cure poison and disease.
Grim Cap mushies are both alchemy and food. I found food more important :)

Personally I love that falling down pit traps is rewarding more often than not!
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 19, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Quote from: Imperator;531747Well, for me food has not been a problem yet (level 3)
It gets tougher.

Quote from: Imperator;531747(level 3), but I would give anything for a missile weapon. I got some arrows, but no bow or crossbow. My thief is getting quite deadly with knifes and stones, but she needs more punch.
If that becomes are real problem and you want spoilers in that regard, just let me know.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 19, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: tellius;531761Personally I love that falling down pit traps is rewarding more often than not!

Yeah same thing. There are often rewards down the pit traps! Everything's worth exploring!
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 20, 2012, 02:20:47 AM
Quote from: Benoist;531762It gets tougher.


If that becomes are real problem and you want spoilers in that regard, just let me know.

No spoilers, please, but I need to know how the fuck you make potions. I found a scroll with ingredient lists for two potions (healing and antivenom) and two empty flasks, but I don't know how to create them.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Melan on April 20, 2012, 07:56:30 AM
Quote from: Imperator;531875No spoilers, please, but I need to know how the fuck you make potions. I found a scroll with ingredient lists for two potions (healing and antivenom) and two empty flasks, but I don't know how to create them.
You will need a specific item to combine ingredients. When you find it, you will know it.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 20, 2012, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: Melan;531923You will need a specific item to combine ingredients. When you find it, you will know it.

OK, that's what I needed to know. I thought I was doing something wrong :) Thanks.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Imperator on April 22, 2012, 01:43:55 PM
Fucking spiders die die die die die.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Benoist on April 22, 2012, 04:14:40 PM
I feel your pain, Ramon.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: Doom on April 22, 2012, 04:33:56 PM
Somewhere around the spider level (or right before it) is an item that gives uber resistance to poison--easy enough to pass around to whoever needs is.

This makes the spiders more amusingly annoying. Lots of secret stuff in this game, if you walk away from an area going "wonder what that button did?", chances are you've missed a secret.
Title: Legends of Grimrock - Dungeon Crawl PC game
Post by: The Butcher on June 21, 2015, 04:26:54 PM
Finally installed this mofo and gave the first two levels a whirl.

Of course I'm already stuck somewhere and one of my PCs is gone to minotaur heaven. "Enter thy grave" indeed. :o

Love this game!