Quote from: Melan;523822The video exaggerates, but it makes a valid point. Read this discussion on FPS map design and the arguments people bring up. Do they sound familiar? :cool:

LOL One of these guys says the Silent Cartographer is bad level design! OMG.
Get the fuck out.

Stealin' mah threads.

And nah, Cartographer was one of the best maps.  Can't give the same praise to the second half of the game, though...

Also, for those on the fence, give in to PC game superiority.  Less lowest common denominator console design BS.  Seriously, health-regen is anti-immersive.  

Depends if you're a Spartan. Then it's your Shields that replenish themselves. Not your Health. Immersion not damaged.

Quote from: Peregrin;523878And nah, Cartographer was one of the best maps.  Can't give the same praise to the second half of the game, though...

BTW Have you tried the Library on Legendary? Now that's some repetitive suicide bullshit right there.

Quote from: Imperator;523817Try this:

http://www.gog.com/

Doom's not on GoG, but it is on Steam, although for modern computers you should use one of the source ports rather than using the default executable (Plus there are modern maps designed to take advantage of the source port's upgrades).

On another note, there have been a few dungeon crawlers of this style on the handhelds recently - the Etrian Odyssey series on DS, for example, is one I think you'd really enjoy. You have to build your own map of the game world, using the touch screen.

The DS is a really good platform for old-school non-real-time CRPGs in general.

Quote from: Benoist;523884BTW Have you tried the Library on Legendary? Now that's some repetitive suicide bullshit right there.

It's been a long time since I've played -- I may have at one point with a friend, but I think we may have given up by that point our of frustration.

However, the first half of Halo 1 is some of my favorite FPS gameplay ever.  Especially back then, because a lot of AI in FPSes was horrible around that time, and Halo's was a nice challenge.

Such a love/hate relationship with that game for me...

Quote from: LadybirdOn another note, there have been a few dungeon crawlers of this style on the handhelds recently - the Etrian Odyssey series on DS, for example, is one I think you'd really enjoy. You have to build your own map of the game world, using the touch screen.

Etrian Odyssey is effing haaaard.  And it's more focused on grinding/combat than exploration or puzzles.  Still fun, but in the way grindy games tend to be more meditative/time-sinks.  Asian RPGs are like that for some reason, though.  Cultural stuff.

So this baby is out. And cheap, too. Anyone got it?

The Steam blurb even mentions an Olde Schoole Mode without automap! How awesome is that!

I'd pick it up right now if I wasn't so engrossed with WoW, of all things. Talk about late to the party...

Wife and I pre-ordered and we played most of last night when I got in from work.

My wife is playing without automap (I didn't see the option in my haste to get in and bashing), she is carefully mapping out on graph paper.

It is all awesome and I love it. The only moment of frustration was that it took me a minute to figure out that you right-click on your weapon/hand to fight/cast spells. But after that, all gold.

I love the tactics that you can use, all the stuff in the environment can be used to your advantage and I can't wait to use different party combo's to see how it all goes.

So for me, definitely well worth the $12 dollars splurge.

I haven't bought it yet but will in the next few days for sure.

I bought it yesterday, haven't had yet the time to test it.

I played it late last evening (the new mission for The Dark Mod enjoyed a priority ), and it is exactly what it set out to be - an atmospheric, not over-complicated 2.5D dungeon crawling game with modern production values. I went the way of the graph paper because I haven't done that sort of thing in ages, and it's been very entertaining so far - exploring a corridor by the dying embers of your torch, bashing in the heads of skeletons in Roman legionnary gear, and all the classic tricks and traps.

The only criticism I have so far is that the first two levels are very linear - there are branches, but they usually lead either to a key you will need in the other branch, or a closed door where you have to backtrack for that key. I hear this gets better deeper into the dungeon, though.

So far, I am happy.

SIGH. Now I have the game but it doesn't launch because of DLL errors.

Level 3: holyfuckspidersSPIDERSPIDERS!getthemoffmeholyfuck!!!! :eek:

Trying to fix my DirectX right now.