Quote from: GRIM;751192Being banned from RPGnet is a badge of honour though.

If you think about it, they should have you on the payroll.  Because every six months or so you just do something to troll them, and in the process they can identify anyone who doesn't follow the groupthink and then can ban them.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;751197If you think about it, they should have you on the payroll.  Because every six months or so you just do something to troll them, and in the process they can identify anyone who doesn't follow the groupthink and then can ban them.

It is quite amusing to see two mods in that thread defend a game that systematically supports such things as rape.

As i said, Sanctimony.

Quote from: Warthur;751145Eh, I think there's a line between making fun of SJWs and making fun of actually oppressed groups and some of the cards I see on the RPGNow preview seem to sail over that line.

3/10 trolling, this is the sort of satire which needs a scalpel and a surgeon's touch, not a shotgun.

Had you seen the hypocriticism and how they treat actual mental illness?  Social justice warriors make shit up in order to draw attention to themselves while people who suffer from real mental illness get ignored.  They need a shotgun (in a satire sense of the word).  Social justice warriors are not defending anyone and are only helping themselves.

Quote from: dragoner;751193I'm part of a munchkin group at a local café, we might actually play that.

Don't mention Munchkin, it triggers me.

Quote from: Snowman0147;751209Had you seen the hypocriticism and how they treat actual mental illness?  Social justice warriors make shit up in order to draw attention to themselves while people who suffer from real mental illness get ignored.  They need a shotgun (in a satire sense of the word).  Social justice warriors are not defending anyone and are only helping themselves.

I actually do suffer from moderate to severe depression with suicidal episodes. Being teased about it doesn't bother me so much, I do so myself (it disempowers its effect in my life). The hypocrisy, however, does bother me.

As does picking on my dad, who was just doing what parents do and trying to look after his kid.

Quote from: GRIM;751213Don't mention Munchkin, it triggers me.

Speaking of triggering.  Guess what I had seen.

Quote from: Snowman0147;751215Speaking of triggering.  Guess what I had seen.

Yeah, we've lost. The lunatics are running the asylum. I give up.

Quote from: GRIM;751179Yep, the Christian one would be incompatible with other religious cards, but you might be better off using the atheist one as your trump, since Christians are privileged...

With Christian/Atheist, I was envisaging a situation where I've got Christian in my hand and I want to play it on my opponent but I can't because he's just played atheist on himself.

QuoteI'm fairly sure you can be bisexual and cisgendered, but bisexual and lesbian, for example, would contradict (someone will be along to argue about that momentarily I'm sure).

And the arguments over whether certain combinations of cards are compatible or not, is part of the game...

Nice mechanic.

I think it works as satire, although it is quite close to the bone. I can imagine that some members of the groups it stereotypes might feel that it perpetuates those stereotypes and, thus, encourages discrimination. I don't think it does.

It's also quite niche/esoteric, in that the average man on the street wouldn't know what a social justice warrior is, and would need an explanation of the context and what the game is lampooning.

I would probably feel uncomfortable suggesting it to a group (particularly one that included a disabled person), unless I felt confident beforehand that the majority of them would grasp the concept straight away, and share my disdain for SJWs.

Quote from: Snowman0147;751215Speaking of triggering.  Guess what I had seen.

Quote from: GRIM;751217Yeah, we've lost. The lunatics are running the asylum. I give up.

Please, that's probably just some ALEX JONESING.

MundaneMatt strikes me as a pretty reasonable guy for the most part.  He has his ups and downs.  When he is wrong he admits that later on and try to do better.  He isn't a Alex Jones is the point I am making.

Quote from: GRIM;751213Don't mention Munchkin, it triggers me.

Now this, this is fucking hilarious.

Quote from: GRIM;751173The idea is to reskin it for something politically devious but that version needs a lot more playtesting.

...and now, when that game releases (Which sounds like it might be good fun), the mechanics are going to be forever linked to this one.

I mean, that evidently isn't a problem, you released this so you must be willing to live with the consequences of your actions. But it looks to me like you've just pre-emptively poisoned the well for your better game, in exchange for a few cheap attacks now. If your other game needs more playtesting, surely the, what, five? ten? hours it took to put this together would have been better spent playtesting.

Quote from: GRIM;751026I don't think it's that difficult. Maybe I should just pick more conventional targets and stop trying to be subtle and nuanced.

It's not that the jokes are going over our heads. It's that they are bad jokes. They don't work.

Quote from: GRIM;751213Don't mention Munchkin, it triggers me.

Is it just me, or is it getting solipsistic in here?

Quote from: dragoner;751227Is it just me, or is it getting solipsistic in here?

I admit, I had to look this up


Can anyone please explain to my simple mind how Holdren can describe a game where it's awesome to be a lawyer defending a rapist and that's all cool, but if someone says rape can be a powerful plot point in fiction then they are advocating rape themselves?

Anyone?  Maybe if I rub two sticks together one of the mods over there can answer this, because it makes no sense to me.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;751238I admit, I had to look this up


Can anyone please explain to my simple mind how Holdren can describe a game where it's awesome to be a lawyer defending a rapist and that's all cool, but if someone says rape can be a powerful plot point in fiction then they are advocating rape themselves?

Anyone?  Maybe if I rub two sticks together one of the mods over there can answer this, because it makes no sense to me.

Sanctimony.

In other news, George RR Martin responds to criticism of his depiction of rape and sexual violence in A Song of Ice and Fire.