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Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: daniel_ream on November 18, 2016, 04:23:01 PM
Are there any American football-style minis games other than Blood Bowl?  GW does factions, yay, but I like the idea of being able to run a league where players can draft any kind of race or monster (a la Chaos League, the precursor to the official Blood Bowl video games).  It seems that allowing players to choose whatever model they like for their Blood Bowl team would break badly given the factionalized nature.

I'm aware of Deathball, Elfball and Kaosball, but those are some weird in-the-round rugby, not American football.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Tod13 on November 18, 2016, 09:53:01 PM
I found Dreadball and Battleball on Amazon. Mostly posting so I notice the thread.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: finarvyn on November 26, 2016, 08:24:35 AM
There was a pull-out game called Monsters of the Midway in an old issue of Dragon magazine back in the day. Issue #65, I think. I don't remember much about it and I know that it didn't have minis but instead used cardboard chits, but it was American football with monsters.

I'm guessing that Bloodbowl minis would work well for it. Probably their board as well, although it wouldn't have lines.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5011/monsters-midway
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Krimson on November 26, 2016, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: finarvyn;932672There was a pull-out game called Monsters of the Midway in an old issue of Dragon magazine back in the day. Issue #65, I think. I don't remember much about it and I know that it didn't have minis but instead used cardboard chits, but it was American football with monsters.

I'm guessing that Bloodbowl minis would work well for it. Probably their board as well, although it wouldn't have lines.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5011/monsters-midway

That is really neat. I kind of want to make a new field for it, but that is a really cool concept.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Omega on November 27, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
Dreadball is pretty good. Nice variety of minis.

Monsters on the Midway came to mind right off. Counters of course. But you could make your own minis version set using Blood Bowl and Greadball minis.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: finarvyn on November 29, 2016, 05:02:28 PM
The problem with most football strategy games (fantasy and otherwise) is that there are so many players that it's hard to work them all together. For example, Statis-Pro Football is a great game but you have to have linemen rated, linebackers rated and so on. Easy to get stats for QBs and the "skill" positions, but not easy to get lineman data. Determining how much of a RB's ability is his (versus a product of his line) is a real mess. Clearly, fantasy football wouldn't have such statistical realism issues but you would still have 11 guys on each team all moving around and doing stuff each play.

I've had a hard time finding any football game that is easy to play yet realistic. Seems like they are either too simplistic or too complex. If my option is "run or pass" that's too simple, but if I have to decide linebacker alignment that's too complex. If someone could develop a football game of the right complexity I think it would be easy to introduce the fantasy element.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Skarg on December 02, 2016, 10:12:58 PM
There is Paydirt (https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1498/paydirt) though I don't think it's a minis game per se.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Crüesader on December 03, 2016, 07:54:17 PM
Fantasy?  Nah, let's do Mutant League Football for tabletop.
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Krimson on December 03, 2016, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: Crüesader;933650Fantasy?  Nah, let's do Mutant League Football for tabletop.

I'm in. :D
Title: Fantasy (American) football minis games that aren't Blood Bowl?
Post by: Spinachcat on December 04, 2016, 03:20:53 AM
Quote from: Crüesader;933650Fantasy?  Nah, let's do Mutant League Football for tabletop.

I did an alpha years ago. It was 4 player king of the hill Murderball inspired by Halo. I have wanted to revisit it  because I was not sure if I wanted to go board / card or minis game.