I haven't bothered to seduce anyone yet, I can't imagine it ultimately being fun - who wants to play nagging wife game!

however i am not really comfortable with the evil mission where you have to seduce the barmaid alex, convince her to marry you and then tell her you were only playing her. That makes me feel not good!

Quote from: kryyst;261338Honest opinions please, not really interested in fanboy ravings.

In words, I only want to hear negative opinions...

Seanchai

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261340however i am not really comfortable with the evil mission where you have to seduce the barmaid alex, convince her to marry you and then tell her you were only playing her. That makes me feel not good!

I can only imagine all the evil missions suck. I tried playing the original game as an evil character and couldn't make it past ripping up the teddy bear.

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai;261344In words, I only want to hear negative opinions...

Seanchai

You read far to much into things.  Just want honest opinions.  I don't need OMZOG It's ROXXOR best game ever !!!!

Something like it's like the first Fable only better graphics, bigger world and combat is more fun that's honest.  For me it's a question of do I buy it now or 4 months from now when it'll be out PV'd.  

Or if this helps at all I enjoyed Fable but found that towards the end it started to get repetitive and felt like I described, generally fun combat broken up by a series of fairly pointless mini-games.  So maybe what I'm asking is does Fable 2 feel fresh for a while, then start to feel like you've been there and done that already.   While this could be said of most RPG's and their sequels some fair better then others because there is more depth and draw to actually see how things turn out.

I loved KOTOR and KOTOR 2 even though game play wise they were pretty similar, but there was enough depth to the story in KOTOR 2 to keep me interested.  Make more sense?

Quote from: Seanchai;261345I can only imagine all the evil missions suck. I tried playing the original game as an evil character and couldn't make it past ripping up the teddy bear.

Seanchai

well it usually equates to evil having more options (eg stealing as opposed to not stealing), but being more of a twat. I'm not one of these people who can play sandboxy games, lie your gta's and whatnot, and just mindlessly slaughter people.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261322well if that's true what happens when you set a location (such as a sale) as a target.

It will point to the stall.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261340I haven't bothered to seduce anyone yet, I can't imagine it ultimately being fun - who wants to play nagging wife game!

however i am not really comfortable with the evil mission where you have to seduce the barmaid alex, convince her to marry you and then tell her you were only playing her. That makes me feel not good!

If you keep them happy they give gifts, some crap some decent like XP potions.

Quote from: kryyst;261347You read far to much into things.  Just want honest opinions.  I don't need OMZOG It's ROXXOR best game ever !!!!

Honestly, I like it.

My biggest complaint so far is that it seems laggy. When I open the menus, etc., it seems to take a second.

I hear that game only takes 10 to 15 hours if you don't run around doing extraneous stuff. For me, that's not an issue as I'm more than happy to replay the game and do tons of extraneous stuff.

As I hinted at in other thread, I don't really care for the pub games. They're fun to play, but don't seem to be a way to make a lot of cash. Rather the opposite.

Another thing I don't like: It's easy to scare folks by accidentally whipping out a weapon or spell. There's a "safety" on that prevents you from hurting them, but they flee in terror and it reduces their opinion of you.

The graphics are better than Fable, but they're not Assassin's Creed by any stretch. I like the palate's and the look of the structures, objects, etc..

Storywise, it seems fun so far. I hear it gets much, much better toward the end, but I haven't experienced it myself.

The mechanics are pretty darn similar to Fable as far as I can tell. Press a button to hit dudes, collect experience orbs, etc..

I like using expressions, so I'm happy with that system.

I like the dog, although he does seem to get lost or left behind a fair but (I run from place to place).

But, really, I'm not too far into the game. I chose to put off the second objective in the main quest - going and finding someone in another city - last night to get married, have a child, work as a blacksmith, and buy a house in Bowerstone. It made me happy, however. Happy enough that it's probably all I'll do tonight.

Seanchai

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261350I'm not one of these people who can play sandboxy games, lie your gta's and whatnot, and just mindlessly slaughter people.

I'm okay with games like GTA and Crackdown. But tearing up the bear in Fable then listening to the little girl wonder aloud about its fate just broke my heart. I mean, I felt really, really bad.

That said, I'm going to try to be evil in my second go-round in Fable II. I'm hoping I can do that without mudercating a bunch of townsfolk. I can eat Crunchy Chicks galore, however.

Plus, there's the whole Purity scale thing to explore this time, too.

Seanchai

...if it works.

Quote from: Seanchai;261362Honestly, I like it.

My biggest complaint so far is that it seems laggy. When I open the menus, etc., it seems to take a second.

I hear that game only takes 10 to 15 hours if you don't run around doing extraneous stuff. For me, that's not an issue as I'm more than happy to replay the game and do tons of extraneous stuff.

On the first point the Xbox desperately needs to install to the HD and the sooner this update comes the better.

I have heard also that the game is pretty short. Now I don't know how much 'side' stuff there is, but I hope it consists of more than the minigames involved in chopping wood or blacksmithing (the same) because they are very simplistic. The pub games are really just a diversion; keystone is kind of interesting but spinnerbox is just a waste of time as it's completely random.

I just wonder how much depth there is in the game really. I haven't made my mind up about it yet. I can imagine that getting married in the game will probably involve dealing with a nagging character that will do little more than piss you off. That isn't fun. While it's funny to make fart noises or scare the kids in the street, just how long will that remain funny? I know you can buy houses and business, but...so what? To what end, other than gold and what's the point of having gold if not to buy the weapons for the main quest?

So Im not convinced that really the game isn't ultimately all facade.

That was kind of my similar feelings with Fable 1.  It was fun getting caught up in all the mini-game like stuff from Fishing, to running around with a monsters head to gain fame as well as the marriage and other popularity based mini-games.  Combat was a blast and an extremely fun element.  The demon doors and all their various puzzles were also entertaining.  But by the end of the game all that stuff seemd kind of pointless and started to feel more like things I was doing, just because there wasn't enough real game play to keep going.  Lots of smoke a mirrors around a rather simple magic trick.  Still a fun game, but not a really deep game.

Oh is fight club back in Fable 2?  I loved fight club.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261504On the first point the Xbox desperately needs to install to the HD and the sooner this update comes the better.

Indeed!

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261504I can imagine that getting married in the game will probably involve dealing with a nagging character that will do little more than piss you off. That isn't fun.

I wouldn't say nagging. My wife does make comments, good and bad. "Oh, I love you!" and "Say, we need some new furniture." But if you're nice enough to your spouse, she'll give you gifts.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;261504While it's funny to make fart noises or scare the kids in the street, just how long will that remain funny? I know you can buy houses and business, but...so what? To what end, other than gold and what's the point of having gold if not to buy the weapons for the main quest?

While I'd definitely like the main quest to be longer, I'm okay with a shorter main quest with the opportunity to screw around as I find the screwing around part to be enjoyable.

Seanchai

Quote from: kryyst;261521Still a fun game, but not a really deep game.

If you're looking for a deep game, I don't think Fable II is for you.

Quote from: kryyst;261521Oh is fight club back in Fable 2?  I loved fight club.

I haven't run across it yet, but I haven't made any forward progress on my quest yet. I bought a vegetable stand instead. And got new furniture.

Seanchai

You know i woudl appreciate it if someone could explain how on earth that spell selector works, because no matter what spells are assigned in slot one (out of the two slots i have access to) i can only ever cast what's in slot 2.