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Endure The Stars. Upcoming scifi boardgame.

Started by Darrin Kelley, January 10, 2017, 04:53:26 PM

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Darrin Kelley

I am a backer of the Kickstarter for this game. I backed it when I first discovered it being promoted at the end of 2015.

It is basically a cooperative multiplayer game with similar play style to the classic GW game, Space Hulk. That's really what attracted me to it. And it is what made me go all in for all of it's bonus items.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/grimlordgames/endure-the-stars?ref=user_menu

It is actually near time for delivery of this game. Grimlord Games said that it should be delivering to backers sometime late January/early February.

I'm excited to get it. I know it is going to be really fun to play.

They have already announced that in the future: They will be doing another Kickstarter for more expansions to the game. Which I am really excited to see.

Communication has been great from Grimlord Games. So I definitely won't hesitate to recommend people find a copy when it hits stores. I think it's something special.
 

Spinachcat

Please post a review when you get the game. And pics.

We've got several Space Hulk fans on the board so it will be interesting to hear about Endure.

Do you have SH? If so, I'd be very interested in your comparison between Endure and SH.

Darrin Kelley

Kickstarter page contains a downloadable version of the rulebook. Which should give everybody a good look at how the game plays.

I had Space Hulk in its first edition form. Back when it was pretty simple. But it was a strictly two player game. One marine player and one genestealer player.

Endure The Stars in its basic form is up to 6 players. With the option of solitaire play. The badguys being controlled by a deck of cards and discrete rules for movement and attack.

The monsters on the board appear as blips before they enter the line of sight of the characters. With them being revealed when they do get seen. So nobody knows what is coming until it is on top of them.

Endure The Stars takes the basic concepts introduced in Space Hulk and makes the leap to multi-character, cooperative experience.

If someone liked Space Hulk, they should love Endure The Stars. It delivers everything Space Hulk was and more.
 

Darrin Kelley

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Yesterday I got the latest Kickstarter update on Endure The Stars.

They announced that the games and extra goodies have all been packaged. And their next step will be addressing Kickstarter backer's packages. And finally shipping them.

I should have my package in my hands sometime within the next month.

After that: I will go through the game and its expansions. Play a few test games. And then post a review of my experiences in this very thread.

I'm looking very much forward to it. Should be a blast.

As for pics. Should be easy enough. My new smartphone should cover those.
 

Darrin Kelley

The first few people to get their copies of the game have posted on the Kickstarter site. They are all in Germany. Close to the main distribution center

So the arrival has begun. People elsewhere should be getting their packages soon.

No word from US customers yet. But this is the beginning. So we should see what happens soon.
 

Darrin Kelley

Today an update was sent in this Kickstarter. It and the comments and the ensuing troubles that have cropped up with the initial deliveries have changed my happy anticipation to ambivalence.

They are already issuing significant errata on the game. Which was a factor they had claimed during the Kickstarter would be unnecessary. As they stated that they would be correcting any flaws in the game before it went to production.
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There are also instances of mis-printed tiles and board pieces. Along with damaged miniatures that the few who have received their stuff have reported. Definitely not happy news.

Even after receiving the game, there is a likelihood of having to wait for replacement parts. Beyond the over a year wait for this game in the first place. I'm not happy.

The company has claimed that the US customers. Like me. Will start getting their packages shipped to them starting March 16th. They were originally supposed to deliver in November.

I'm likely not to back any other Kickstarters in the future because of this.
 

Darrin Kelley

The problem with breakage seems to come from the careless packaging of the company who printed and assembled the games.

The main box for the game is said to be about 1/3rd too small to contain the contents. So instead of manufacturing new boxes, they just carelessly mashed the figures into the boxes that were too small. Which has resulted in bending and breaking of some of the figures in transit.

There has also been found mis-assembled figures. One's that won't stand right because of their arms being longer than and obstructing the figure's bases.

I'm not amused. Not one little bit.

Still. I'm not blaming Grimlord Games for this.

It is the company they got to do the printing and assembly of the boxes, rulebooks, cards, and other printed matter for the game who are at fault. They were absolutely beyond careless in putting together the product. They didn't even do basic quality control inspections.

After plopping about $260 US or so on this Kickstarter. I am a bit red hot.

And I still haven't even gotten the package yet!
 

Sable Wyvern

Shouldn't the publisher be doing QA on a prototype before launching full scale manufacturing? That goes for the complete package, not just the individual items in isolation.

When I backed a card game a while ago, the trickiest part of the actual production seemed to be getting a box and insert that they were happy with.

Darrin Kelley

Quote from: Sable Wyvern;948577Shouldn't the publisher be doing QA on a prototype before launching full scale manufacturing? That goes for the complete package, not just the individual items in isolation.

When I backed a card game a while ago, the trickiest part of the actual production seemed to be getting a box and insert that they were happy with.

As far as I know. That step in the process didn't happen at all.
 

Darrin Kelley

More bad news keeps surfacing.

One backer got an invalid tracking number. And so far the company hasn't done anything to correct that situation.

They also launched a Kickstarter for another game before the first was even delivered. One which they heavily advertised through updates of this Kickstarter to the backers.

It's not looking good to me at all.

The absence of quality control at the factory. And now this?
 

Spinachcat

Sorry to hear about these issues. I am still hoping the final product is notable.

The box nonsense is utterly unacceptable.


Quote from: Darrin Kelley;947381I'm likely not to back any other Kickstarters in the future because of this.

We have many KS backers on the forum - several superbackers I've noticed too - so this is a good resource about KS companies with a good track record vs. those who have a mixed or poor record. Also, when brand new companies launch a KS, we've have posts by people discussing the facts about the KS team.

I've been doing KS for years and I've backed almost 2 dozen projects. There's been one mess, a couple of meh, but lots of great stuff.

Darrin Kelley

Well because of this experience. I have decided that I will only back the Kickstarters of people I know and trust personally.

One of my friends from various forums and chatrooms will be launching one soon for the 2nd Edition of one of his moderately successful RPGs. And I plan to back it. Because I won't get any nonsense from that experience.
 

Darrin Kelley

Well it is March 16th. The day that this game is supposed to arrive at the US distribution point. To get this side of the world's backers their copies of the game.

It means I could have it in hand sometime in the next two weeks.

But there was also another thing that came up. They had to re-write the rulebook. And will be posting it as a PDF on their site.

The problems never seem to end with this experience.
 

Darrin Kelley

There is at least one of the item cards in the game that the company will not be printing a replacement of. This directly impacts the play experience.

The damaged miniatures they do seem to be offering replacements of. But it still sucks.

The rulebook being a mess should have been taken care of during the year and a half of its ramp up to production. And they aren't offering physical replacements. Only a PDF of an corrected rulebook.

Then there are the misprinted tokens and tiles. Which also impacts the game's actual playability.

This is an incomplete game. That never went through any quality control. Put through a high profile production company.

If you were thinking of buying this product. And were not a part of the Kickstarter leading up to its production. My advice is: Don't buy it.
 

Darrin Kelley

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Well one of the other backers managed to get some information out of Grimlord Games.

It seems like the product is stuck in customs. And hasn't made it to the US distribution center yet. But that it should clear customs sometime by the end of the week.

So it's likely that my package won't likely arrive until sometime in April.

After that. It means waiting for replacement parts. For any damaged miniatures. And any misprinted items.