QuoteIncompetent shyster Mark Rein-Hagen partners with largely uncommunicative Game Salute for a perfect storm of delays. Game funded 11/21/2012, and un-shipped as of May 2014.

A brief sampling of Rein-Hagen claims:

12/3/2012: "...don't worry, we will totally transparent in every way. ... We have everything ready to go on our end, we just need final pricing."

7/7/2013: "Hi everyone, Democracy is finally done and will be shipping any day now from China."

10/23/2013: "We just signed a deal with Game Salute to fulfill and distribute Democracy: Majority Rules. As soon as the manufacturer in China can get off their... can deliver the product (they are now promising a week now) they will almost immediately ship it out."

"Game Salute has deep relationships with many manufacturers, distrubutors, vendors and shippers, so I am sure that at this point, things are going to go well. Have no fears, this product will be delivered, and soon."

11/1/2013: "We are preparing to ship the games any day now, we are just trying to coordinate with other game shipments to Game Salute. I am trying to get them shipped in the next couple of days."

"You are for sure getting your games for xmas."

1/29/2014: "I was going to post a full update today but I decided I needed yet another night to think about my words and rarefy them to a unique level of profound sublimity wildly unfamiliar to my creative Loki. However, you first need to know – my splendiferous, so uncherubic crazies – that the game shipment is nearly there."

"I'd never leave a gamer and his wad stranded, ever. Never have, never will. Democracy is on its way.

So calm the f**k down. Subside. Please please plese"

2/3/2014: "Speaking of which, though I did not realize it, I did get a message regarding the shipment, complete with a manifest. It is on route and nearly in the USA."

2/26/2014: "You will be happy to know that the Democracy Games have arrived at Game Salute and we will be sending them out soon. I've been frantically fixing a horrible mistake I found on the Secret Agenda cards after one last playtest, but we reformatted them and that's fixed now. Game Salute is going to print them for us locally since I live so far away. I am shipping off some other Add-On materials tomorrow to them."

"You can expect another update in a day or two.

Democracy will be in your hands soon."

Game Salute communications directly to backers:

1/7/2014: "We are working with the developer to get games shipped to backers. We will be working to get backers information soon. We will be making an update as soon as the games get into our warehouse."

1/14/2014: "The game is still currently in the production stage of development and is not actually ready to be shipped yet. When it is ready, you will be sent another email containing your tracking information for the order."

1/20/2014: "We cannot confirm a date of shipment, but we have received the game which means sometime within the next few weeks."

4/1/2014: "We are still waiting on the developer to start shipping games."

4/1/2014: "Unfortunately, I cannot offer a status or a time-frame. When the game is ready, an email will be sent out. The best place I can say to find information is the place that you already use; the Kickstarter Update page for the game.

Sorry, I can't be more vague, I know."

4/7/2014: "I'm sorry to say we don't have anything to report, once we do we'll post an update and try to get everything sent out ASAP."

4/9/2014: "We're still waiting on a few last things from the developer, once we get them we'll begin shipping in earnest."

Bonus Rein-Hagen claim to a Danish game con that he attended: "You will be able to buy Democracy in a couple of weeks."

Exciting new non-developments!

Game Salute to backer Matthew Titelbaum today:

"We're handling fulfillment for Democracy: Majority Rules but we did not run the campaign nor handle the manufacturing. We're awaiting the backer info and funds to process outgoing shipments from Mark, so we'll defer to him commenting on this matter. We're happy to process those shipments once we have all the info and funds we need to send them."

So... Mark hasn't paid them either. Totally predictable.

Frankly, I'm shocked that he hasn't taken the 30k he netted from the I Am Zombie campaign to send out Democracy in true ponzi-scheme fashion. Perhaps he's already spent that money as well?

Quote from: Silverlion;772284I would like to point out that Mark Rein whatever, hasn't been a WW staffer in a LONG time.

In fact there aren't ANY WW staffers anymore as I understand it.

Just holders of their licenses. But his leaving the company goes back even farther.


Not that I have a boat in the game race you're talking about