http://wizkidsgames.com/blog/2014/05/30/wizkids-announces-dungeons-dragons-dice-masters/
So one of the IPs wizkids has gotten for Dice Masters is D&D, from the announcement, leaning towards Forgotten Realms.
I'm pretty excited by the idea. Dice Masters, which is currently only out with the Marvel IP with the first set Marvel Dice Masters: Avengers vs. X-Men is a collectible card/dice game similar in some ways to Quarriors.
Its basically a combination of CCGs and DBGs with dice. Imagine Magic + Dominion + dice chucking.
I'm a huge fan of the Marvel version, and thought D&D would be a neat addition, especially since they should be fairly compatible to play together, much like Wizkid's Heroclix.
Any thoughts on this? Either as a game, or just as an expansion of D&D into other areas other than RPGs?
Unnecessary fad that hopefully dice faster than Dragon Dice.
Quote from: Phantom Black;754287Unnecessary fad that hopefully dice faster than Dragon Dice.
I see what you did there.
Y'know, I don't even know anyone who ever played Dragon Dice, even though apparently it's universally reviled. It could be the bee's knees for all I know.
I support them expanding the Dnd brand it means they won't put out 3673 books for Dnd every year. Dnd CCG? Go for it.:)
Quote from: The Butcher;754296Y'know, I don't even know anyone who ever played Dragon Dice, even though apparently it's universally reviled. It could be the bee's knees for all I know.
I actually played it a few times, as one of my gaming circle was a big collector of it. Although I now can't remember a thing about it.
Quote from: Marleycat;754317I support them expanding the Dnd brand it means they won't put out 3673 books for Dnd every year. Dnd CCG? Go for it.:)
That's always been my take. Let them make a bazillion dollars off the D&D brand so that the RPG is left the hell alone.
I never played Dragon Dice, but I'm really liking Dice Masters so far. Gameplay is pretty fast, though the "deckbuilding" isn't quite as diverse as I would like but I imagine that will change when new sets come out.
And the collectible aspect really isn't that bad, unless you are a compulsive "own everything" type person.
Quarriors, which the game is based on, was fun. But with the first Dice Master set, Marvel Dice Masters, WizKids decided a collectible model would be better for the industry. My guess is D&D Dice Masters is going to also be collectible.
Count me out.
Quote from: Crabbyapples;754404Quarriors, which the game is based on, was fun. But with the first Dice Master set, Marvel Dice Masters, WizKids decided a collectible model would be better for the industry. My guess is D&D Dice Masters is going to also be collectible.
Not really, they decided a collectible set would be better
for Wizkids.
Quote from: Crabbyapples;754404Quarriors, which the game is based on, was fun. But with the first Dice Master set, Marvel Dice Masters, WizKids decided a collectible model would be better for the industry. My guess is D&D Dice Masters is going to also be collectible.
Count me out.
Quarriors was a bit like dominion, it gets stale fast without a constant influx or novel/new dice and cards. So I can see how the collectables model would work, if your going to be constantly buying new dice anyway does it really matter if it's via expansion packs or boosters?
Also, the way they did rarity is working really well in my opinion. Hell for a home game its super easy to proxy anything you don't have.
Each character has 3 different cards with different abilities. Most are Common, Uncommon, Rare, but 4 in the first set are Common, Rare, Super Rare. Exceptions are the ones that come in the Starter set, 8 characters that have 3 different cards each, and each of the starter characters has 1 uncommon that comes in packs.
Anyway, all the dice for one character are the same, so if you have a common wolverine and a rare wolverine, you have two wolverine dice that can work with either card. And since the cards are never shuffled, they just sit on the table to remind you the cost of the die and special ability, they can be proxied easy.
Also, honestly, not just the influx of cards, but Dice Masters to me has a lot more legs than Quarriors did. Each player brings 8 cards with up to 20 dice distributed between them, and they buy from those (there are also basic actions, each person brings 2, which act as a common pool of dice that both players can buy from).
This means that its not just finding out what the best combo in the center is and rushing to it, its reacting to what your opponent can do and what dice he buys off of his cards.
And the more opponents you can play with different decks, the more you have to learn to adapt. Its a really fun game imo.
I really enjoyed Dragon Dice. I was sad to see it die...
But this looks terribad... and Collectible? ugh...
What's next? The D&D Pet Rock? The D&D Lava Lamp?
That said, I wouldn't mind a D&D Mage Knight. It's funny how that was the thing that started the company but died rather quickly. Some of their molds were old classic D&D miniatures, too.
Quote from: JeremyR;754582What's next? The D&D Pet Rock? The D&D Lava Lamp?
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I have a very fond childhood memory of being a fifth-grader in the early 80's and spending a lazy Sunday afternoon with my best friend (Soon to pass away) goofing around with his Christmas present, the Official Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Woodburning Crafts Set.
Good times, good times.
Quote from: JeremyR;754582What's next? The D&D Pet Rock? The D&D Lava Lamp?
Isn't there some sort of miniatures-based dragon dogfighting game coming out? I thought I saw that mentioned on TMP a while back... but not being interested I didn't pay it much attention.
Quote from: Simlasa;754883Isn't there some sort of miniatures-based dragon dogfighting game coming out? I thought I saw that mentioned on TMP a while back... but not being interested I didn't pay it much attention.
Yeah, using the X-Wing system.
I can see that being the next bubble to burst - those sorts of games aren't cheap to design or play, and dragon dogfighting, though cool, doesn't seem like enough to sustain a game line.
Pity they aren't all cross-compatible - dragons vs spaceships vs spitfires practically writes itself as a setting.
Dragon dice is still alive too. SFR saved it from the WOTC landfill they were planning to chuck TSR product into.
Its actually a fairly good dice game and SFR seems to be moving away from the collectible aspect too.
I rather enjoyed Dragon Dice, too. Much like M:TG it plays a heck of alot better as a drafting game than a "deck building" game.
It's no M:TG, mind you, but harmless enough.