Quote from: Lord Hobie;788183A katana and a trenchcoat in a doublewide are dangerous things. - Lord Hobie

You know what these guys remind me of?  Ever see that horrible cheesy movie "The Swordsman"?  The one from 1993 with Lorenzo Llamas?

There's a scene where they are in a swordfighting class, and this big, out of shape neckbeard nerd shows up dressed as a barbarian and proceeds to talk about how great his character is.  Well, he's in a room full of actual swordsmen, and not just a bunch of LARPers, and proceeds to get his ass handed to him.

That's who these guys remind me of.  Proclaiming you're a badass based on your LARP skills or sword collection (chances are those aren't even battle ready blades but cheap Pakistani knockoffs) is a quick way to get yourself hurt.

*Edit*  hahahaha, double idiocy for the win.  I just noticed that these "women who need defending", he can't even get their names spelled right.

What a tool...

This is why I can't even take people that defend these "journalists" and social justice "warriors" seriously.  They are hypocrites that go out to do the things they preach against.  When a actual minority voices his/her opinion that goes against the social justice narration these people rips apart that person.  They cry about being harass at trolls yet they give out harassment and death treats.

I don't think that's Costikyan in the picture or that he posted the pic. I think it's someone else making fun of him. The actual article on Gamasutra I believe was taken down a day later, maybe after he sobered up. But it's probably still available on archive.today, which is replacing donotlink as a way to document craziness without giving it link rank OR page views.

I hope Costikyan is doing well. I don't know if this represents a lurch from right to left (around the time of Pax Brittanica and Trailblazer he seemed to be flirting with Libertarianism and even nostalgia for colonialism) but he's always seemed like an intense guy.

From this point I will call trolling, Phil Fishing!

Quote from: One Horse Town;787641Best not to post when drunk, mate.

Dude, that's the ONLY time you should post

Quote from: One Horse Town;787641Anyhoo, what the flying fuck has this thread got to do with Pundit or RPGs?

Nothing, but it's relevant because... reasons?

Quote from: Arminius;788199I don't think that's Costikyan in the picture or that he posted the pic.

He's not, and he didn't.

But sadly this won't stop the people who want to make assumptions that fit their narrative from making assumptions that fit their narrative.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;788228

Quote from: Arminius;788199I don't think that's Costikyan in the picture or that he posted the pic.

He's not, and he didn't.

But sadly this won't stop the people who want to make assumptions that fit their narrative from making assumptions that fit their narrative.

Well, thank goodness for small favors!

I guess I can only ridicule him for chauvinistic white knighting, rather than that horrid picture.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;788228He's not, and he didn't.

But sadly this won't stop the people who want to make assumptions that fit their narrative from making assumptions that fit their narrative.

Thank God.  Otherwise that would be just too much to handle

Did he say the quote though?  Do we know that?  I'm trying to see if he's just half as rediculous as before (which is still quite a bit), or another regular dude caught up in a mess.

An article appeared in Gamasutra under his name, with that quote.

https://archive.today/vT7vp#selection-1463.2-1465.14

If he said the quote he is still pretty stupid.  Not to mention by Anita's logic and thus the logic of many other social justice warriors is pretty damn sexiest.  I mean how dare you try to protect a woman as if she is a damsel in distress.

Then again using Anita's logic, or the lack of logic as I will call it there would be a lot of white knights that are guilty of being sexist towards women.  Like every single last one of them.  Even by their own rules those social justice warriors fail and become the thing they hate the most.

What I can't understand is how so many people take them seriously.  By the social justice terms and rules the social justice movement is sexist.  How can anyone take that movement seriously?

Well, I think it is likely that some amount of the direct abuse and harassment is real, not falsified, not exaggerated or misinterpreted, not "false flag." Even though I don't any of the threats had actual intent behind them.

That stuff is unacceptable even though people on the "Gamergate" side have also been targeted. Even though the "anti-Gamergate" side has exploited incidents of abuse and harassment, and no matter how incorrect or dishonest their position may be on the root issues of corruption and ideological criticism of the content of games.

The best exponents of the Gamergate movement have been arguing that they can walk & chew gum: denounce harassment while simultaneously fighting bias and corruption.

So basically this is just like the mess with Pundit and Zak.  A group of people telling the world that Pundit and Zak are horrible people and products should be boycotted because they allegedly harrased and doxx'd SJWs, while at the same time ignoring the doxxing, harassment, and death threats commited by their own group.

As someone with no dog in this fight either way, I'd take your (SJW) claims of harassment more seriously if you even made some attempt at giving the impression that you didn't accept it from your own group, let alone give the impression that you endorse it (which is the impression I get currently).

I'm not a fan of such blatant hypocrisy, and honestly the SJW crowd ignoring and/or endorsing worse behavior than they're accusing their enemies of hurts the "cause" more than helps it.

Yep it is the same old shit that we dealt with before, but in a new format.  I denounce the trolls for their harassment, but at the same time it doesn't change my stance on what the social justice movement had done either.  If the social justice warriors actually practice what they preach I would see them at a different light, but they can't even pull that off.  Hell they might even be the worst examples of us from the things they pull off and gotten away with.  Not saying they are worst than ISIS because that is not only over a dramatic bullshit lie, but that would be stooping to social justice level.  I am saying social justice warriors are just pretty bad people.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;788278I'm not a fan of such blatant hypocrisy, and honestly the SJW crowd ignoring and/or endorsing worse behavior than they're accusing their enemies of hurts the "cause" more than helps it.

"Worse," we don't know. Anita Sarkeesian has reported receiving threats to the San Francisco police, who turned the case over to the FBI. I think anyone who speculates publicly on that outcome is likely to embarrass himself. The texts she quoted/screenshotted were pretty vile.

On the other hand there's been a DDoS on The Escapist, which is one of the few fora where the discussion was allowed to continue; one guy believes he was fired from a temporary job because of reports sent to his boss; a reporter had a mysterious syringe sent to him in the mail; a prof at Cornell (who is pro-GG) had her identity exposed by a student.

It does seem though that the GG people are making more of an effort to call out & discourage harassment.

Quote from: Arminius;788282"Worse," we don't know. Anita Sarkeesian has reported receiving threats to the San Francisco police, who turned the case over to the FBI. I think anyone who speculates publicly on that outcome is likely to embarrass himself. The texts she quoted/screenshotted were pretty vile.

.

The "worse" part was more referring to the consultantgate thing.  I.e., accusing Pundit and Zak of being transphobic and advocating harassment while having members of their group declare death threats against pundit.  Death threats are worse than harassment, IMO.

Quote from: Arminius;788282"Worse," we don't know. Anita Sarkeesian has reported receiving threats to the San Francisco police, who turned the case over to the FBI. I think anyone who speculates publicly on that outcome is likely to embarrass himself. The texts she quoted/screenshotted were pretty vile.

Given all the manipulation and lies that Anita does it is very hard to trust her.  IF this is is real, then holy shit that is pretty bad.  No one should get get death threats no matter how vile the person is.

Quote from: Arminius;788270An article appeared in Gamasutra under his name, with that quote.

https://archive.today/vT7vp#selection-1463.2-1465.14

What an ass.